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05-13-2014 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
Paste it from there then, let's see how they are different.
I can only import it to one as the conversion software only allows me to choose either pt or holdem manager. I used to import it to PT4 but then I was told that holdem manager shows all the hands so I started importing it there for studying purposes. The last time I posted a HH was from PT4 and found no errors but this was like 4 months ago. I'm gonna post at the commercial software forum and see if I can get some answers. I rarely post HHs anymore so I didn't notice all the errors till you guys pointed them out.
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05-13-2014 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TheStuntman
I can only import it to one as the conversion software only allows me to choose either pt or holdem manager. I used to import it to PT4 but then I was told that holdem manager shows all the hands so I started importing it there for studying purposes. The last time I posted a HH was from PT4 and found no errors but this was like 4 months ago. I'm gonna post at the commercial software forum and see if I can get some answers. I rarely post HHs anymore so I didn't notice all the errors till you guys pointed them out.
How about a screenshot from the poker client then?
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05-13-2014 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
How about a screenshot from the poker client then?
I will do so when I get home. I also noticed the positions being switched for the villain. Villain did start as UTG but as you read the HH he turns into dealer. I already posted on the commercial software forum on this issue as well. The main reason I got the converter was to keep track of stats and winrates and such, but obviously these are some pretty egregious bugs.
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05-13-2014 , 12:04 PM
I just use the copy to clipboard feature in the replayer on holdem indicator. Comes out fine. Past here. You can toss the suit in your self from the icons below or just leave it like so AcAd.


In case people use any indicator software and want to post hands its on them all.
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05-13-2014 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
Please stop posting doctored made up hands. TY.
In all fairness to that guy, I have several hands in my database with weird things like that in them. It's either something in the converter or the way PT and HM reads those converted hands. I don't know the guy, he could be faking it for some reason, just saying I have seen it first hand in mine.
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05-13-2014 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TheStuntman
I will do so when I get home. I also noticed the positions being switched for the villain. Villain did start as UTG but as you read the HH he turns into dealer. I already posted on the commercial software forum on this issue as well. The main reason I got the converter was to keep track of stats and winrates and such, but obviously these are some pretty egregious bugs.
I also suggest digging out the original HH from Bovada to make sure it was reported correctly there.

Last edited by COKE_MAN; 05-13-2014 at 12:18 PM. Reason: Dyslexics of the world, untie!
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05-13-2014 , 12:53 PM
I smell a converter issue. If it's on Bovada's side then that is scary and would be reason #361 to get my money out now.
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05-13-2014 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TheStuntman
He had runner runner outs though, isn't that standard in PLO? hitting runner runner?
sure when you envision backdoor flush and straight draws. but these meth heads get it it with and underpair and 2 random cards with no draws but runner runner fullhouse on a wet board
T86ss (examp AQ44r)
then runout 4 A
and you sittinig there with JT97ss going wtf.

hands like that make me question things. but then i realize i w/d and not deposit and i force myself to trust the system.

its a love hate relationship.
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05-13-2014 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by -sham-
sure when you envision backdoor flush and straight draws. but these meth heads get it it with and underpair and 2 random cards with no draws but runner runner fullhouse on a wet board
T86ss (examp AQ44r)
then runout 4 A
and you sittinig there with JT97ss going wtf.

hands like that make me question things. but then i realize i w/d and not deposit and i force myself to trust the system.

its a love hate relationship.
I see this sorta thing ALOT in MTTs against the short stack. But I tend to agree with you on the wtf scale of Bovada at times.
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05-13-2014 , 01:40 PM
I had to read the HH like 8 times to make sure I wasn't just way too stoned.
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05-13-2014 , 01:57 PM
That sounds like the least fun way to figure out how stoned you are.
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05-13-2014 , 01:59 PM
How did the hero lose with 2pr aces and jacks when there was only one Jack on the board?
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05-13-2014 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Malefiicus
That sounds like the least fun way to figure out how stoned you are.
It actually was a pretty awesome way. I literally lol'd for like 5 minutes.
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05-13-2014 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by -sham-
sure when you envision backdoor flush and straight draws. but these meth heads get it it with and underpair and 2 random cards with no draws but runner runner fullhouse on a wet board
T86ss (examp AQ44r)
then runout 4 A
and you sittinig there with JT97ss going wtf.

hands like that make me question things. but then i realize i w/d and not deposit and i force myself to trust the system.

its a love hate relationship.
Yeah that isn't a runner runner full house. That' s a turned set and a big ol blank on the river. JT97ss looks pretty good there.
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05-13-2014 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mark32607
How did the hero lose with 2pr aces and jacks when there was only one Jack on the board?
The hand history is a joke.
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05-13-2014 , 02:53 PM
just saw a new poker promo don't forget to sign up if you already haven't. similar to weekly cash bonuses from like a month or 2 ago.
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05-13-2014 , 02:57 PM
So Bovada what say you to "PokerStars to Receive a US Patent for Fast-Fold Poker"
http://www.pokernews.com/news/2014/0...oker-18243.htm

Does this put them back in people's particularly the DOJ scope? Is it something Bovada should think about removing from the site? (Not that it gets a ton of traffic)
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05-13-2014 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DrawMeOut
So Bovada what say you to "PokerStars to Receive a US Patent for Fast-Fold Poker"
http://www.pokernews.com/news/2014/0...oker-18243.htm

Does this put them back in people's particularly the DOJ scope? Is it something Bovada should think about removing from the site? (Not that it gets a ton of traffic)
its a US patent. Only applies for companies legally operating in the US. Bovada isn't legally operating within US Law.
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05-13-2014 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by idun215
its a US patent. Only applies for companies legally operating in the US. Bovada isn't legally operating within US Law.
I don't know the ins and out of the laws just would to interpret what this means. Seems like it just puts them more into the spotlight. If Pokerstars owns the patent now cant they also go after Bovada and push for it? They complied when busted now cant they push the US DOJ to act?

"Gray-market sites, such as Bovada, will also be subject to this patent. However, whether Bovada, which currently offers Zone Poker as their fast-fold poker variant, complies or not is debatable considering they already violate US laws, specifically the UIEGA, and continue to offer unregulated real-money poker to US residents."
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05-13-2014 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DrawMeOut
I don't know the ins and out of the laws just would to interpret what this means. Seems like it just puts them more into the spotlight. If Pokerstars owns the patent now cant they also go after Bovada and push for it? They complied when busted now cant they push the US DOJ to act?

"Gray-market sites, such as Bovada, will also be subject to this patent. However, whether Bovada, which currently offers Zone Poker as their fast-fold poker variant, complies or not is debatable considering they already violate US laws, specifically the UIEGA, and continue to offer unregulated real-money poker to US residents."
if they didn't go after them when they were illegally operating a online poker room and gambling site what makes you think they'll go after them now for patent infringement. This patent only poses a problem for legal sites thats offer fast-fold poker in the US.
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05-13-2014 , 03:21 PM
can we cash our bovada checks at check cashing places or wallmart or must it be deposited into an account?
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05-13-2014 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by idun215
if they didn't go after them when they were illegally operating a online poker room and gambling site what makes you think they'll go after them now for patent infringement. This patent only poses a problem for legal sites thats offer fast-fold poker in the US.
My only thought is that PS may push the DOJ to do something about it due to regulation and timing it when they may be allowed back into the market in some areas. This would take alot of effort on the alot of fronts and probably not going to happen but if Stars knew when they would be allowed back into the US in certain states and pushed the DOJ to finally take action against other states it would create a large vacuum of players in the US who would then be forced to play on regulated sites. From my understanding the traffic on these sites in NV and New Jersey is not very large and people are still opting for Bovada/Merge/Winning due to player pools. If this ceased to exist then its a huge benefit for those regulated sites which would also boost the state/fed bottom line if and when its ever fully regulated. I am just throwing out possible scenario here not what I believe will happen.
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05-13-2014 , 04:14 PM
Neither of them operate in the US so I don't see why it even matters at this point? I don't know how those sort of things work at all though.
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05-13-2014 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by YouthBlood
can we cash our bovada checks at check cashing places or wallmart or must it be deposited into an account?
I have seen people say that they have. However, it didn't work for me.
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05-13-2014 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Meditations
Anybody? Seems like it's an issue with my display, a 27", as this hadn't been a problem before and on my laptop I get the 4 table tile just fine
Is your 27" display plugged into your laptop? If so I used to have the same problem. They wouldn't tile when I was using 2 monitors. Or they wouldn't tile on one screen. They would tile across both. On a 27" screen you should be able to resize them smaller and see them fine without tiling though.
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