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05-12-2014 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LookBehindYou
That's actually not true
Of course it is true. To suggest the level of play gets harder as you go down levels as apposed to up is just absurd.

Im not sure why Im discussing this further as its so trivial, but speaking more specifically to his direct question, I can assure you and the original OP that NL100 is harder than NL25. At NL100 you start to finally encounter a significant number of professional poker players. You encounter good NL200 regs that are adding a couple NL100 tables for whatever reasons and some really good experienced NL100 grinders. At NL25, and even to a lesser extent NL50, you just dont encounter players of that skill level nearly as often.

The same increasing skill level is seen as you move up to NL200/400 as well and Id assume higher levels. The overall rec/reg ratio in general decreases proportionally each level you climb as well.

Last edited by 5thStreetHog; 05-12-2014 at 10:16 PM.
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05-12-2014 , 10:08 PM
is bovada blocking deposits from bank of america now? ive always been able to deposit until sunday. Tried my girls card and even my grandma's lol. Dont worry she supports my degen lifestyle. I guess my next option is a prepaid card, just curious if anyone else is experiencing these problems? thanks!
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05-12-2014 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Shast44
is bovada blocking deposits from bank of america now? ive always been able to deposit until sunday. Tried my girls card and even my grandma's lol. Dont worry she supports my degen lifestyle. I guess my next option is a prepaid card, just curious if anyone else is experiencing these problems? thanks!
CCs are always hit or miss. Make sure international transactions are enabled. Dont ever deposit with other peoples credit cards.
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05-12-2014 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Of course it is true. To suggest the level of play gets harder as you go down levels as apposed to up is just absurd.

Im not sure why Im discussing this further as its so trivial, but speaking more specifically to his direct question, I can assure you and the original OP that NL100 is harder than NL25. At NL100 you start to finally encounter a significant number of professional poker players. You encounter good NL200 regs that are adding a couple NL100 tables for whatever reasons and some really good experienced NL100 grinders. At NL25, and even to a lesser extent NL50, you just dont encounter players of that skill level nearly as often.

The same increasing skill level is seen as you move up to NL200/400 as well and Id assume higher levels. The overall rec/reg ratio in general decreases proportionally each level you climb as well.


Go back and read my first sentence. I'm saying that your logic is flawed not your idea which is basically a well known fact.
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05-12-2014 , 11:20 PM
So i deposited 500 on bovada today, first time ive played online in ages it seems like. I quickly run it up to about 1000 and all the sudden get an email from them informing me to call them about my account.

Upon speaking to the lady on the phone she informs me that my account is a duplicate account and i had previously had an account with them with a negative balance of 500 from 2005 so they are now disabling my account until i can speak to a representative tomorrow during business hours. (which she claims will be the only time that department is available)

Number 1, i dont recall ever having a negative balance with bodog and how that is even possible. and
number 2, how can they freeze my account after taking money out of my bank account to assess and possibly try to collect on a debt i dont even recall making from almost 10 years ago. (not to mention they claim this is a debt brought over from when they changed over from Bodog)

Has anyone else experienced something of this nature?
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05-12-2014 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by j9neverlose
and how that is even possible.
Most common way is via a chargeback on the card used to deposit (or similar things like the card being reported stolen/fraudulently used)
Edit: Not accusing, just answering "how is it even possible?".
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Originally Posted by j9neverlose
number 2, how can they freeze my account after taking money out of my bank account to access and possibly try to collect on a debt i dont even recall making from almost 10 years ago. (not to mention they claim this is a debt brought over from when they changed over from Bodog
Assuming there is a debt, why couldn't/shouldn't they?
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05-12-2014 , 11:30 PM
a 10 year old debt isnt discharged at some point? Like i said, if they can provide me with paperwork showing this chargeback or whatever, id be willing to settle with them, but i have no recollection of this ever actually happening.
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05-12-2014 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by daedalus 9
busto on the casino bonus. Glad you cleared the rollover tho.
How did you guys get the bonus? I played several WSOP sats last week and did not get an email as I thought I was supposed to.
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05-13-2014 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TuscaloosaJohnny
How did you guys get the bonus? I played several WSOP sats last week and did not get an email as I thought I was supposed to.
login to your account online, click my casino, than click my bonuses. There should be a bonus under my available bonuses that says WSOPxxxx.
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05-13-2014 , 12:08 AM
You gotta clear a 300 dollar rollover good luck with that lol
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05-13-2014 , 01:31 AM
Please Bovada turn off my doomswitch, especially when I GII with aces in dominating positions post flop. TY.

PokerStars Hand #2858180981: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2014/05/05 23:33:14
Table '#8140423' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: UTGplus2 ($33.71 in chips)
Seat 2: Dealer ($28.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Small Blind ($18.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Big Blind ($69.69 in chips)
Seat 5: UTG ($52.82 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($54.30 in chips)
Small Blind: posts small blind $0.25
Big Blind: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As Ah]
UTG: raises $1.32 to $1.32
Hero: raises $4.71 to $4.71
UTGplus2: folds
Dealer: calls $4.71
Small Blind: folds
Big Blind: folds
UTG: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jh 4s Ts]
Hero: bets $7.74
Dealer: raises $15.85 to $23.59 and is all-in
Hero: calls $15.85
*** TURN *** [Jh 4s Ts] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [Jh 4s Ts 3d] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dealer: shows [Kc 3h] (three of a kind, Threes)
Hero: shows [As Ah] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Dealer collected $55.77 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $58.67 | Rake $2.90
Board [Jh 4s Ts 3d 3s]
Seat 1: UTGplus2 mucked
Seat 2: Dealer (button) showed [Kc 3h] and won ($55.77) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 3: Small Blind (small blind) mucked
Seat 4: Big Blind (big blind) mucked
Seat 5: UTG mucked
Seat 6: Hero showed [As Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
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05-13-2014 , 02:37 AM
that looks as awful as the plo hands that go down
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05-13-2014 , 02:37 AM
Lol that's pretty funny. Typical at 50nl?
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05-13-2014 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TheStuntman
Please Bovada turn off my doomswitch, especially when I GII with aces in dominating positions post flop. TY.

PokerStars Hand #2858180981: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2014/05/05 23:33:14
Table '#8140423' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: UTGplus2 ($33.71 in chips)
Seat 2: Dealer ($28.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Small Blind ($18.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Big Blind ($69.69 in chips)
Seat 5: UTG ($52.82 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($54.30 in chips)
Small Blind: posts small blind $0.25
Big Blind: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As Ah]
UTG: raises $1.32 to $1.32
Hero: raises $4.71 to $4.71
UTGplus2: folds
Dealer: calls $4.71
Small Blind: folds
Big Blind: folds
UTG: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jh 4s Ts]
Hero: bets $7.74
Dealer: raises $15.85 to $23.59 and is all-in
Hero: calls $15.85
*** TURN *** [Jh 4s Ts] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [Jh 4s Ts 3d] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dealer: shows [Kc 3h] (three of a kind, Threes)
Hero: shows [As Ah] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Dealer collected $55.77 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $58.67 | Rake $2.90
Board [Jh 4s Ts 3d 3s]
Seat 1: UTGplus2 mucked
Seat 2: Dealer (button) showed [Kc 3h] and won ($55.77) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 3: Small Blind (small blind) mucked
Seat 4: Big Blind (big blind) mucked
Seat 5: UTG mucked
Seat 6: Hero showed [As Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
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05-13-2014 , 03:34 AM
Hands like this happen several times an hour minimum. It's even worse when you're playing HU. If you're a winning player your winrate is going to be significantly less than it should be. I'm not saying you can't still be a winning player, but it is going to take a significant amount more of hands played (which only means more rake) to win. The kicker is these massive coolers always tend to occur in pots that go AI. So yes, AA is winning 85% of the time, but its WHEN you lose that 15% of the time that raises red flags imo. And like the above poster, it occurs it situations where you're completely dominating the hand and its a snap call AI. I wish there was a way to calculate actual winrate vs. AI EV over a large enough sample size on this site. I'd guess there is a significant divergence and it's through juiced hands and setups. The site operates illegally in the US, the tables are anonymous so you have no idea who is on the other end, we have no information on the security protocols they have in place, we don't know anything about the software used to deal cards. But it's the risk you willingly as its the only US option. But to say that Bovada poker should just be viewed as a completely trustworthy poker provider is naive to say the least. The bottom line is rake generation and creating net depositors on their site. It's effectively casino poker.
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05-13-2014 , 03:45 AM
LOOOL PLO HIGH!

didnt even see that ****. nice catch.

also more

Seat 2: Dealer (button) showed [Kc 3h] and won ($55.77) with three of a kind, Aces

haha

just passed by it all as std everyday crap i see
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05-13-2014 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie
Ohh. Ur talking about limit. I can see that
plo and limit. seems i may have been wrong about micro and small nl, tho i havent seen enough evidence.
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05-13-2014 , 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by -sham-
LOOOL PLO HIGH!

didnt even see that ****. nice catch.

also more

Seat 2: Dealer (button) showed [Kc 3h] and won ($55.77) with three of a kind, Aces

haha

just passed by it all as std everyday crap i see

Im not sure what is more awesome, the dude posting the fake hand history to cry about how bad he runs when no one here gives a **** in the first place, or the guy after him that proceeds to give a riggie speech using the hand as the backdrop.

God bless America.


Btw, this line in the riggies speech is absolutely priceless even as riggie quotes go.

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So yes, AA is winning 85% of the time, but its WHEN you lose that 15% of the time that raises red flags imo.
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05-13-2014 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Im not sure whats worse, the dude posting the fake hand history to cry about how bad he runs when no one here gives a **** in the first place, or the guy after him that proceeds to give a rigtard speech using the hand as the backdrop.

God bless America.
Lolllllllll
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05-13-2014 , 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LookBehindYou
login to your account online, click my casino, than click my bonuses. There should be a bonus under my available bonuses that says WSOPxxxx.
Thanks.

That didn't last long. I think my $15 was gone after $30 in bets. Dealer drew to 21 three times in a row...the sort of thing online conspiracy theorists would harp about it yet happens all the time live too.
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05-13-2014 , 07:29 AM
Bovada blackjack owns my soul
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05-13-2014 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Meditations
Lolllllllll
This is awesome!
I wonder if the people who cry the most about online being rig play live at all...
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05-13-2014 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TheStuntman
Please Bovada turn off my doomswitch, especially when I GII with aces in dominating positions post flop. TY.
Please stop posting doctored made up hands. TY.
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05-13-2014 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by -sham-
that looks as awful as the plo hands that go down
He had runner runner outs though, isn't that standard in PLO? hitting runner runner?

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Originally Posted by camz2895
Lol that's pretty funny. Typical at 50nl?
I'm not sure how typical it is, but I probably see a random all in spaz post flop once every 2k hands or so give or take 500 hands. Kinda like the good ol days when we were allowed to play on Tilt and Stars.

I see why you guys think the hand is doctored. I didn't do it, I just copy and pasted from my holdem manager 1 after I imported it using the converter. Seems to copy and paste fine from poker tracker.

Last edited by TheStuntman; 05-13-2014 at 11:26 AM.
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05-13-2014 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TheStuntman
I see why you guys think the hand is doctored. I didn't do it, I just copy and pasted from my holdem manager 1 after I imported it using the converter. Seems to copy and paste fine from poker tracker.
Paste it from there then, let's see how they are different.
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