Confirmed SS.

I'd like to call bull**** on Cereal playing 3k hands per day.

Also, your wasting your time complaining.

I like how you say "lagtard" like lag is a derogatory thing lol. You're obviously the tag nit that sits there insta folding everytime I 3bet you with k4 suited getting jealous watching me win half the pots while you wait around for setup hands because you have no clue what to do post flop without the nuts. YAWN

OMG! Are you saying online poker is rigged?

I get a feeling of pride when called a lagtard, embrace it.

There's a difference between a good LAG and a lagtard obv. The lagtard is the one 3 betting with K3o and then doing the "oh ****" pause when a maggot stack shoves on him.

@cereal,

Just play HU if you don't wanna play short stackers. PM me if you ever want to play.

They're at HU too

Yes WU works just fine if you are careful to follow the instructions. You'll have to have a telephone call with them to get the full information. And despite what they tell you, it is possible to do WU deposits online using a DC.

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Kahn

Tony Robbins the motivational speaker? Did a quick google and didn't notice anything.

I don't know, what do you think? Despite my age (old & grey) I'm fairly new to poker in general. Started playing online @ 6 months before Black Friday. Layed off about a year then tried the brick and mortar casinos. Instead of $20-40 month online deposit to account I was then faced with $100-300 buy in per session. I know this was for the poker communities protection and not because the online poker rooms failed to contribute to the various political parties re-election campaigns. Now I'm stuck with bovada as my only choice as every other online poker room I've tried rejects my application every time I fill out the portion of the application containing my home state and I don't feel comfortable about bovada's integrity.

Bovada has been in business for over 20 years, always pays within days, and has fantastic customer support that you can call 24 hours a day to get assistance from. Yeah.... I wouldn't trust them either.

And poker communities protection? You have to be a troll.........

Is this too cute to be a troll?

I've seen this dozens (hundreds?) of times. Older "live" player who has been playing for X amount of years tries online, loses his ass and then immediately comes up with conspiracy theories about how it's rigged.

I started playing in 2004 after seeing reruns of the 2003 WSOP and after hearing someone compare poker to chess. I saw Rounders when it came out and didn't understand the game of holdem. We played 5 card draw as kids with 2-K wild and 5 draws and everyone got 5 aces and we played until my brother had a fit and tore up the cards. In late 2004 I started reading the newsgroup rec.gambling.poker and saw your story all over the place. People just don't understand the numbers behind the game and start coming up with all sorts of anecdotal evidence to try and support their conspiracy theories. There are none. The deal isn't rigged. Getting A6 on 2 tables at the same time means exactly nothing. For the record, I'm 41.

Not sure if this is a bad/brilliant troll or not, but the one thing you can trust about online poker is that the deal is fair.

Sorry what is a DC? Deposit Card?

Debit card.

Unlike everyone else jumping your ass, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you actually understand what's going on. I'm over here literally LOL'ing


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Kahn

this makes no sense

What's your bovada sn?

Yes.

And?

Well, youd be wrong. Most good SS dont play like that. Bad recs buying in for min play like that.

Ive been grinding online poker and studying the game for nearly ten years. Ive played against, watched, and studied enough pro short stackers to know how successful ones generally operate.

Good SSs dont play like this. You are confusing random passive recs who naturally click the min buyin when they sit with professionally SSs.

This statement has pot and kettle written all over it as you seem completely ignorant to successful SS strategy.

Try doing a little research. There are many top SS in this very forum and thousands of training videos where dealing with good winning aggro SSs become a theme.

Good luck.

It's not impossible to set up HU matches on Bovada. Doesn't take much more than being on Skype, finding an empty table, giving the table # to whomever you're wanting to play, and then sitting at the same time. HU tables don't immediately fill up. I usually have to wait 5+ minutes(if not much longer) to get action.

You can choose what stack size you play against, and I'm offering him a full stacked match. Whenever a short stack sits your tables, you don't have to play him, and you can also search out full stacked opponents.

I rarely ever have to wait more than 5 minutes for a full stacked to sit me (I'll usually just play a 50+bb stack though) , and I'll just play full stacked "regs" until someone joins my game. So I don't really think short stacking is a problem at HU, since you can choose who you play.

Btw, not to keep harping on this silly subject, but this one post illustrates my point perfectly.

A lot of you guys just dont seem to understand that a ton of recs just buy in for min and you think that they are winning players employing some good SS strategy for some reason. Of course there are good SS on every site, but the players this Cereal dude is complaining about and the ones described in the post above are not them obviously.

Oh yeah, Lol about having to tighten up your opening range because one of these SS might flat you.

Any edge SS provides is eliminated HU. Id suggest you play every SS you can find HU because every single one is a rec noob just like the ones we discussed before.

Exactly

I very rarely get sat by good SSers HU. I usually play anyone as long as they have 50 bbs. I only sit out VS less than that because it's not really worth it for me to waste a table to take some donks last bit of $.

As far as 6max and FR goes, most the short stackers there are pretty horrible, but occasionally you run into a few good ones.

Yeah, to echo what everyone else is saying, the actions attributed to these short stackers are the actions of fish, not some short stack strategy. A successful shortstack is highly aggressive and plays in a way which most resembles a successful hyper turbo strategy (aka, a push fold chart). In playing on Bovada, I have never played a single short stack that I thought was a winning player.