is the site down?

Figured I would cross-post this from the MTT Community Bovada MTT thread. Any thoughts on payouts for good performances that are not in top 3 of big tournaments?

Yes this is a very nice phenomenon...everyone who isn't in NJ or NV will eventually find Bovada and consider the merits of depositing and playing. Here is some exact growth info regarding that 9:30 PM $10+$1 Guaranteed tournament:

On January 12, 2012, it had 424 entrants and paid $880 to winner.
On April 8, 2012, it had 467 entrants.
On August 20, 2012, it had 425 entrants and paid me $882 for winning.
On March 15, 2014, it had 1463 entrants and paid over $2200 to the winner, BUT ALMOST DIDDLY SQUAT TO ME (47th place for $39.50 minus my $11 entry).

With this growth, I wish Bovada would look for a way to make logical players who know they will do well but will rarely get into top 3 places of big tournaments FEEL LIKE THEY CAN MAKE NICE PAYDAYS from placing in the top 10% or 5%. For the March 15th tournament, only the final 18 out of 1463 players were paid over $87. You could beat 97% of the field, get paid $46 minus $11 entry for $35 profit. I feel like they pay too much of the prize pool to the top 3 places, and not enough to the excellent players who beat 85%-99% of the field. Sometimes these two groups of players are only separated by one late coin flip result or, worse, a late cooler, that has no connection to skill level.

I rarely play MTTs so I don't have a horse steak, but flattening the payouts like you are suggesting is a superb way to encourage the increasing fields of rec players to stall even more than they do today.

I know what you mean brother,last week I finished 25th out of 1198 in the sunday 100k
that swelled to 179k and it only paid 754.00 for twenty fifth, very top heavy indeed

I'm in the US right now, but planning on playing Stars out of the US in a few months. Can I play on Bovada or Bodog? I have a big roll on bovada and would like to continue playing. Do I sign up thru Bodog?

Depends on where you're going, but I know bovada doesn't do business in a lot of countries (like Mexico).

what about canada? where can i play stars and bovada(bodog)?

Bovada is US only, bodog is Canada only.

I played against this guy tonight (still am), but nothing seems fishy about his play.

You guys should try not stalling and winning tournaments instead

Holy mackerel I hate all these short stacks. Bovada is short stack central

funny you say that... I bled most my roll after withdrawing but couldnt will myself to play lower than 25nl so tonight I started shortstacking and getting great results at the moment

You just have to be motivated to constantly switching tables, because very 20 minutes or so a good table you're on will turn into 3-4 30bb short stackers. They really should get some deep tables though, because I know plenty of recreational players, (from home games/casino) and they almost all prefer bigger stacks.

i rarely play w/the same person for more than an hour at 6max...FR players seem to stick around a bit longer...think some of us would appreciate a 50bb min but the recs seem to ♥ short stacking...also perhaps they play a level or 2 higher than normal cuz they are able to shortstak...most of em see far 2 many flops and dont have a proper shove/fold game so u can def absorb em

Welcome to mtts, bro.

Learn how to play real poker

I just made the most epic comeback I've ever had in a sng turbo after getting HU. I started with a 4:1 chip disadvantage and luckily for me the dude was god awful and got even before getting crushed in a 60/40 spot. LOL, I than somehow managed to come all the way back from just 68 chips against his 13364 stack to take him down and sent him packing on his trike. Man that felt great

Nice..good stuff!

Getting up from a table and moving seats resets your run good. Everyone knows that

The site is obv rigged

lol welcome to the MTT life

So I was thinking about synchronized breaks, and I had a thought. (I've had a couple whiskeys tonight - and don't feel like playing much - so this'll be a little longer than my usual post, but should be coherent haha)

Obviously most of us want synchronized breaks, and with it being asked for so much, it seems pretty obvious that they should know that we (meaning people on 2+2, grinders, etc.) want synchronized breaks.

As we know, Bovada is executing a business model that caters to recreational players, something which I actually embrace (although I admit I'd love rakeback.) So, is there a reason that Bovada is purposefully NOT putting in synchronized breaks, in order to make their network better for recreational players?

That's a question I'd like to know if anyone has a better answer to than I do, since all I have is an idea of why they'd want that. Basically, the only reason I can think of is that since most of the other networks (all?) have synchronized breaks, grinders may leave Bovada off their tournament schedule, since they wouldn't get their breaks.

Now, I understand that there are also downsides to them doing this even if their goal is to cater to recreational players. I'd imagine that many people who play for fun like to multitable, etc. etc.

Anyway, I'll end my post with this... Does anybody know, or have any ideas, as to why Bovada doesn't have/seem to want synchronized breaks? And/or does anyone have knowledge about them working on it, or at least acknowledging that synchronized breaks have been requested?

anybody have a rundown on what decent win rates are at the various stakes on bovada from 2c/5c to 10/20? Anybody ever break it down?

this actually made think for a sec. all the regs who play mtts are probably playing there anyway. they are still playing the mtts. thus creating synchronised breaks actually wouldnt result in a huge influx of regs.it would just create a bit of buzz amongst the regs that already play there. probably boost guarantees without too much of an influx at all.

i mean think about it...how many mtts regs are saying to themselves "bovada has by far the best mtt schedule and cashouts but im not gonna play there bc they dont have synchronised breaks".