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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
it has already been proven that the pseudo-oversight from players can elicit change. take what has happened at ACR for example. players in the hs discord came together to collate evidence to prove that there were hundreds of bots on the site. this is still an ongoing process but if it weren’t for players uniting, this wouldn’t have happened.
GG is another example, although to a lesser extent. again we were able to boycott and challenge the sites policy to revert the rakeback changes that they attempted to enforce. admittedly with the news from Russian gg skin this week, gg seems like a lost cause…
obviously ignition is a different kettle of fish because it’s anon and seemingly more offshore than acr or gg. but if we were able to arrange a mass boycott I genuinely believe that this could force change.
the qualm I have with your behaviour isn’t that you don’t see the solutions to online poker as I do, it’s the conscious decision to windmill your results in the face of people who rightly fear the reality that befalls them. I could also post a good winning graph my last 100k hands of iggy but I don’t think that does anything for anyone rather than boost my own ego. imo we need to work together, but you are right, it’s obviously your prerogative if you don’t see it that way.
and to your last point, I agree - people have told me poker has been dying since 2008 yet here we all are still making a living. I ofc just wanna protect that
Listen we are ultimately on the same team here, we both don't like collusion/bots/cheating/RTA. I just don't agree with this fear based mentality.
You shouldn't be running away from the bots/colluders. You should be attacking them.
By definition, if colluders are using highly exploitative strategies to beat you then you can use the same strategies to beat them.
I don't want to go into specifics too much but I was checking out your latest YT video upload and the first hand you are playing at 2knl.
A colluder opens 3x with 26cc in HJ, colluder 2 (sitting right next to him) cold calls 75dd. You 3bet QQ OTB. Both colluders call.
The flop comes KJJr. They X to you and you cbet 1/3 and colluder 1 check-raises 5x and you fold QQ.
There's already 3 data points in the hand that let you know these guys are likely colluders so you can never fold here. You are going to be hemorrhaging money in these games if you are playing like this.
I do appreciate guys like you who try to help the community, I just don't think presenting collusion evidence to some shady gambling site is the best way to go about it, we should try to go the legal route.
GL!
Last edited by DooDooPoker; 04-11-2024 at 09:31 PM.