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Old 09-14-2021, 10:24 PM   #64501
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Sometimes life presents us with a moment of clarity....
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Old 09-14-2021, 10:41 PM   #64502
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Sometimes life presents us with a moment of clarity....
Strikes and gutters, ups and downs.
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Old 09-14-2021, 10:50 PM   #64503
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I get the following message when I try to open Zone tables:

"We're not able to process your request at this time. Please try again."

The lobby makes it look like people are playing (50+!), but I think the lobby numbers are just frozen for now.

I hope this resolves soon. My Zone addiction is real.
I have been playing Zone for about 10 minutes now with no issues! It seems fast and smooth.
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Old 09-15-2021, 12:09 AM   #64504
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I enter a $215 satellite to the $1055 MTT. Minimum players for the tournament to run is 4. We start with 4. The prize pool is listed as the top three get the ticket. On the first hand, a player busts ... and the satellite immediately ends with me and the other 2 players getting a $1055 MTT ticket.

It's the little kinks on these unregulated poker sites that make internet gambling more enjoyable...
Lol nice score.
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Old 09-15-2021, 01:49 AM   #64505
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$1000 bi: why do dudes in the last 25 call an all in with QJo when i have AJo and they win? thats hundreds of dollars, if not thousands. also, why did my internet go out 2x during tourney? why ask why?
edit: sick brag i cash at least.
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Old 09-15-2021, 07:43 AM   #64506
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$1000 bi: why do dudes in the last 25 call an all in with QJo when i have AJo and they win? thats hundreds of dollars, if not thousands. also, why did my internet go out 2x during tourney? why ask why?
edit: sick brag i cash at least.
AJ is my bane in tourneys, it always loses. Have to remember just to fold that hand.
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Old 09-15-2021, 01:45 PM   #64507
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Would someone be kind enough to double check my math?

$14 per hour + 200 hands per hour = 7bb/100 at $50nl Zone?
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Old 09-15-2021, 02:48 PM   #64508
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Would someone be kind enough to double check my math?

$14 per hour + 200 hands per hour = 7bb/100 at $50nl Zone?
Wait, what? I'm so confused.

ScoopThaPoop or is it ScoopThaPot? Is it bb/100, BB/100 or PTbb/100? Is $50NL blinds of .25/.50? Should I divide $14 won by the blinds of $.50 to get 28bb? And should I divide 200 by 2 to get 100? And then should I divide 28bb/2 to get 14bb/100? And who the **** is winning 14bb/100 or even 7bb/100 at fast poker? I'm confused, but impressed. And if winning that much at $50NL Zone, even without a $100NL Zone, this person needs to get to $200NL Zone.

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Old 09-15-2021, 03:19 PM   #64509
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Would someone be kind enough to double check my math?

$14 per hour + 200 hands per hour = 7bb/100 at $50nl Zone?
If it's $14/hr and 200 hands/hr, then it is $14/(2 * 100) = $7/100. At 50NL, $7 is 14bb, so this works out to 14bb/100.
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Old 09-15-2021, 03:33 PM   #64510
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Wait, what? I'm so confused.

ScoopThaPoop or is it ScoopThaPot? Is it bb/100, BB/100 or PTbb/100? Is $50NL blinds of .25/.50? Should I divide $14 won by the blinds of $.50 to get 28bb? And should I divide 200 by 2 to get 100? And then should I divide 28bb/2 to get 14bb/100? And who the **** is winning 14bb/100 or even 7bb/100 at fast poker? I'm confused, but impressed. And if winning that much at $50NL Zone, even without a $100NL Zone, this person needs to get to $200NL Zone.
Since I moved up to 50NL (conventional 6max) in June, I have been killing it for ~20bb/100. This is only over about 8K hands, though. I've got 42 BI for 50NL, or 21BI for 100NL, in my Ignition account right now

Should I:
(a) Stick to 50NL for another 50K hands or so to be sure;
(b) Move up to 100NL and see how it goes; or
(c) Take a shot by four-tabling 500NL?
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Old 09-15-2021, 04:12 PM   #64511
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Since I moved up to 50NL (conventional 6max) in June, I have been killing it for ~20bb/100. This is only over about 8K hands, though. I've got 42 BI for 50NL, or 21BI for 100NL, in my Ignition account right now

Should I:
(a) Stick to 50NL for another 50K hands or so to be sure;
(b) Move up to 100NL and see how it goes; or
(c) Take a shot by four-tabling 500NL?
El Duderino, you are killing it. When winning a lot, a little patience doesn't require a lot of patience. I'd use a 50 buy-in rule to move up. You said you have 42 BI for 50NL, so you almost have that locked up with a bit more above that needed to take a shot at 100NL. I've seen people willing to aggressively go 50 BI + 1 BI shot. And I've seen other people where only a 1 BI shot frustrates them when they lose it and would rather wait until they have 50 BI + 10 BI shot so they can hang in there at the higher limit for awhile and hope it sticks. Good luck.

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Old 09-15-2021, 05:45 PM   #64512
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If it's $14/hr and 200 hands/hr, then it is $14/(2 * 100) = $7/100. At 50NL, $7 is 14bb, so this works out to 14bb/100.
Thanks Dude!

To your question below you should keep crushing where you’re at. It’ll help your live game and you’ll have the benefit of continued improvement without the variance of better players at stakes that are 4x or 10x per bb greater; basically the risk/reward isn’t there.

Why lose 1k in a bad session if you’re not already confident you can beat that stake for a higher hourly than you’re currently at? Keep grinding my Dude and you’ll get there =)

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ScoopThaPoop or is it ScoopThaPot?
Lol ship the poop is only yelled in home games xD

My game is not repeatable in a HUD environment. These games are special and I’m trying to learn a more solid strategy on the fly.

Started a PG&C thread to catalog my progress.
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Old 09-15-2021, 07:19 PM   #64513
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I don't want to derail the I-can't-load-any-tables or hey-what-happened-to-my-tournament-buyin discussions, but I do want to point out when I say that my balance currently on Ignition is 42 50NL buyins, that says very little about the size of my overall poker bankroll.

Even if I was crazy enough to put it all into a single session of 4-tabling 500NL, this would only take two buyins for the live cash game in which I play for my bread and butter.
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Old 09-15-2021, 09:01 PM   #64514
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Definitely move up to 100NL already
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Old 09-15-2021, 11:52 PM   #64515
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I'm trying to install the Bovada software on my Windows 10 PC.

I keep getting the "There was an error while rollbacking a faild update. You may need to reinstall the application." error.

I've tried deleting and reinstalling like 3 times, and the ignition software gave me the same problem.

Is there a known fix to this?
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Old 09-16-2021, 12:58 AM   #64516
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Can't edit my previous post, I successfully installed the Ignition software, but I'd like to play with the Bovada software as that's where my money mostly is right now.
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Old 09-16-2021, 01:56 AM   #64517
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@Alan those were the assumptions, treat it like a game and get to know the micro streets. What’s the difference between 50nl and 100nl? You could have jumped into 200nl and it wouldn’t have made a difference in your life.

Play for the experience, take lines to see if they’ll work and try alternate strategies (float 3bets, bluff raise rivers when they’re capped and you’re not; get a feel for the tipping points of avg regs). There’s nothing to prove in winrates or buyins unless that’s your thing. Treat it as a learning experience while you fill out your poker portfolio going up in stakes.

If we are speaking openly what do y’all think about the 50bb stacks donking out on low boards? Seems like a limit play except they don’t have the range advantage. Do they make a profit with that play or is it being taught somewhere?

Last edited by ScoopThaPoop; 09-16-2021 at 02:25 AM. Reason: I don’t want to sound too willy nilly. I mean things like in close spots take every opportunity to expand your 4bets etc
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Old 09-16-2021, 02:23 AM   #64518
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I'm moving a significant sum from Ignition to Exodus to Gemini. The only way I've known how to transfer your cryptocurrency to USD in order to then send USD to your bank account is to sell the crypto for USD on the market. I've done this for smaller withdrawals without noticing how large the fee is. What's the deal? I don't remember this type of fee when I used Blockchain.

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Old 09-16-2021, 02:28 AM   #64519
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If we are speaking openly what do y’all think about the 50bb stacks donking out on low boards? Seems like a limit play except they don’t have the range advantage. Do they make a profit with that play or is it being taught somewhere?
In MTTs it's GTO-advised for the BB to donk a number of low boards, 753 and 643 type boards. They may not have a range advantage but they have a nut advantage (all sets, and many straights and other good stuff IP doesn't have).

Not sure about 50bb cash. BB obviously doesn't call pre nearly as wide with no antes in play.

It's not a limit play. Played millions of LHE hands.
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Old 09-16-2021, 04:05 AM   #64520
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I'm moving a significant sum from Ignition to Exodus to Gemini. The only way I've known how to transfer your cryptocurrency to USD in order to then send USD to your bank account is to sell the crypto for USD on the market. I've done this for smaller withdrawals without noticing how large the fee is. What's the deal? I don't remember this type of fee when I used Blockchain.
Are you talking about a high transfer or selling fee?

I use Coinbase to buy/sell from USD to BTC on their market exchange and the fee has always been 0.5% or $5 per $1k.

Blockchain's transfer fees were insanely high for a awhile, but now they have been under 25cents for my recent transfers.
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Old 09-16-2021, 10:56 AM   #64521
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Am I the only one who is having problems seeing their hand histories and recent game results?
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Old 09-16-2021, 11:41 AM   #64522
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I'm trying to install the Bovada software on my Windows 10 PC.

I keep getting the "There was an error while rollbacking a faild update. You may need to reinstall the application." error.

I've tried deleting and reinstalling like 3 times, and the ignition software gave me the same problem.

Is there a known fix to this?
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Can't edit my previous post, I successfully installed the Ignition software, but I'd like to play with the Bovada software as that's where my money mostly is right now.
Sometimes Windows is the problem. Even a brand new computer right out of the box might not have all the Windows updates installed. Go to "Start" > "Settings" > "Update & Security" > "Windows Update" and install any updates needed to Windows. Afterwards try installing the Bonition software you want again. It sounds like you finally got Ignition to download, but can't get Bovada which is weird since they should be almost identical downloads. If you have Ignition, but most of your money is on Bovada, you can still use the web browser software to play on either one. And if you prefer the downloaded version, then you can at least use the browser version to make a withdrawal from Bovada through whatever withdrawal method you prefer and then move it over to Ignition.

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Old 09-16-2021, 12:52 PM   #64523
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@DifferentName thanks for the explanation

I don’t mean to spam this thread so I’ll ask once. Could someone point me in a direction with how to accelerate my understanding of poker theory/solver play?

I have the time and am willing to put in the work. What I lack is the ability to do it myself, I always get bogged down in questions I can’t answer and that drains the progress.

Heck I’d offer a six-pack or bottle of something to watch a recorded session and just talk about where I’m at in poker and what I need to learn. I don’t know what I don’t know, ya know?
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Old 09-16-2021, 02:00 PM   #64524
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I play Pot Limit Omaha, therefore I can't offer up what is the best route for a NLH player, but hopefully someone else can answer.
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Old 09-16-2021, 02:42 PM   #64525
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Are you talking about a high transfer or selling fee?

I use Coinbase to buy/sell from USD to BTC on their market exchange and the fee has always been 0.5% or $5 per $1k.

Blockchain's transfer fees were insanely high for a awhile, but now they have been under 25cents for my recent transfers.
Selling fee. The only way I'm aware of to convert crypto to USD on Gemini is to sell it on the market. I don't remember doing this on Coinbase, but I'm not really a guy to notice fees; maybe it was always like this. I'll just say it, it was a $600 fee on a $40k sell. I guess that's only 1.5%. But I can't imagine crypto guys are paying this fee every time they switch crypto to USD.

The other options given are "redeem" and "convert". Redeem has something to do with accruing interest and convert only converts one crypto to other cryptos.

I used to use Blockchain and Coinbase but I switched to Exodus and Gemini.
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