Fair enough, good post, but I disagree with it ever approaching 40% though.

You rarely get all in in poker.

You play a ton of hands between those hands.

In nearly every hand there is variance that has an effect on your win rate. Sometimes for just a couple bbs, other hands very large chunks of bbs. Situations where you run AA into KK, set into set, flush over flush, ect, are obvious, but less obvious more frequent situations like you or your opponent getting turn or river cards that either suck out or else improve you or them to second best type hands, turn or river scare cards that cost you tons of value or save you from being value towned, are happening all the time. That more consistent variance will dwarf your all in variance imo because of the much greater frequency it is encountered.

Having said all of that, I agree that its something thats really hard to quantify obviously.

I do however believe that my original point is accurate that AIEV being the be all and end all in determining how good or bad you are running like it has become is a bit misguided.

I just got trip 10s beat by 10s full of Jacks in a low stakes DS tourney.
Last nite I played live poker a couple of hours and the people there seemed to be playing a lot worse than what I have seen on bovada overall.

You can achieve a much higher hourly with a much lower win rate on other sites, assuming you can play more then 4 tables.

For me it only updates if I open the tourney lobby from the main lobby. Not from the lobby tab on the table.

Over how many hands?

That is crushing it's a decent hand sample size.

very nice


Zy

i had rakeback on bodog through rakereduction which stole everyones money
is anyone still getting rb somewhere else that was grandfathered in?

Im pretty sure there isn't rake back anymore. I've had my account there for 8 years and don't know of any options.

Live players are pretty terrible. I've seen/heard/read lots of players and coaches describe a good online player as between 3-10 times "better" than a live player in terms of the stakes they can play and still win at live. That is, a 1/2 online player, who is good, could handle himself in a 10/20 live game--his 1/2 online is multiplied by 10 to get to 10/20 (even at just 3 times better a 1/2 onliner would be pretty good at a 3/6 live game and could navigate a 5/10 live game too). Recreational (even counting some recreation regs) poker players in a casino have nearly the same mentality as the players who play blackjack, craps, and roulette--"hey, I'm here to gamble." Something to think about when deciding how to spend your hours every week.

Same here, however it's easy to figure how many spots pay, just not how much,

Go to any registering tourney lobby, click tourney info and they all pay the same amount of players.

exemptions to (beginner), and 6-max, tourneys.

this isn't true....a 10/20 game usually has no cap and plays ginormous. imo they are not even close to the same thing. 100bb 1/2 online and 10/20 live with 15k+ stacks...wrong.

The size of the stacks has zero to do with the skill level of the players which was the point he was making.

A bad player with $200 on the table is the same bad player with 15K on the table.

There arent too many open to the public casino games anywhere at any level that will be as tough as a normal NL200 Merge table period.

That would depend on what city you live in. And bad players usually don't risk 15K, unless you are lucky to seat at a table with a gambling millionaire. Also, the higher the stakes, the more prone a bad player is to making mistakes. So a bad player with $200 at a table is much more likely to make more mistakes when 15k is at risk at much higher stakes. Everyone has limitations. You can't compare apple to oranges. NL200 on Merge? You can't even get your money out of there in 2 months if you win. The highest stake tables right now at Carbon is $3/$6. 3 Tables, two with zero players, and one table with just one player waiting. It's not even playing right now.

I understand there is a limit to 4 cash games simultaneously. Do they impose the same restrictions for there MTT's? I want to grind the mtt schedule, but would be retarted if your only allowed to 4 table

no limit for MTT tables.

Great news, thanks

get your pee bottle ready

Technically there's a 20 table limit for MTTs, but for all practical purposes it's unlimited.

how long do you have to wait to download your hand histories? i did it yesterday and not its saying for today not yet available.

25 hours

can someone describe their experience with the western union deposit method or just direct me to a thread that runs through deposit methods. thanks.

ROFL sad but true

I keep the tournament lobby open when it gets down to bubble time so I can see when I'm ITM and where the pay bumps are.

Yea but that is tiny compared to traditional rakeback

yea I can play about 6-8 tables before my win rate starts to suffer.

My sample size is about 75,000 hands. My only concern is the triple rake on Winning. Which is the only other place I would consider seeing as the games are way too nit filled on Merge.

And poop bag.

Good point I notice several times at the casino when folks from say a Mississippi Stud wonder into the poker room after a big hit and things get interesting.