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03-26-2015 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rocketragz
As a mod or whatever you are with 2p2 based on the color of your name, way to spread the fear mongering.
I didn't read his post as fear mongering at all. It's completely right to believe that you could lose every dime you have on Bovada at any given time. If you're playing offshore sites from America you need to prepare for the worst, not assume everything will be ok. Ask the guys that used FTP as their bank account how smart that decision was after it took 3 years to get their money back.
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03-26-2015 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
They have always honored my requests for this. Usually around tax season I ask for my previous years activity. Not sure how far back they go, but I don't see why they couldn't send you your entire history. It comes in an excel spread sheet.
This reminded me that I didn't ask for my 2014 history yet. So I e-mailed them right after I posted that message, and I have already received the spreadsheet. They literally answered my request within 30 minutes. I would say that's pretty damn good.
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03-26-2015 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rocketragz
As a mod or whatever you are with 2p2 based on the color of your name, way to spread the fear mongering. "robots playing, colluders paying, and my funds could be seized at any minute" are not new issues. As said many times in this thread, bovada getting shut down is fairly unlikely. Bodog/bovada has been around for a long long time. Much longer than ftp and stars and pretty much most other sites. Also, some sites at least, have wised up since the pre black friday days. I like my odds at the moment.

And not to mention, even if RAWA passes for that scumbag Adelson, it has zero effect on current offshore sites.
I hardly thought that was fear-mongering. And no, sajeffe doesn't have a role with 2+2 (not that it would matter, as mods are allowed to have opinions too); sajeffe was given the pink colour for "doing an outstanding job with the Daily Action Plan and has been a great 2+2 contributor as well", according to the mod that made the request.
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03-26-2015 , 01:08 PM
Would be great if bovada offered 6 max hyper sngs at all the levels they offer 9 man hyper sngs, most ppl prefer 6 max when you get 300 to chips to start imo

edit: would also be great to have an option not have the pop up box you have to click whenever a tourney starts. i imagine this is annoying to all types of players

I.E, you are timing down with a decision on table 1, you make up your mind go to click all in on table 1 but it doesn't work and you time out because a new tourney popped up and the pop up box has to be clicked before anything else on the site

Last edited by mjcace; 03-26-2015 at 01:18 PM.
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03-26-2015 , 03:17 PM
I and others have mentioned the annoying pop up box ^^^^^^ before. The best reason I can think of as to why Bovada keeps it is this: By forcing you to click "OK" you are providing proof that you understand that tournament X has started. For people who play a lot of tables at once this could be a factor. Perhaps Bovada doesn't want people emailing them for a refund when they're 16-tabling tournaments and saying they sat out for 4 levels because they "didn't know the tournament had started." It's just a way of them covering their arse.
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03-26-2015 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sajeffe
I left Bodog after we got our Full Tilt funds back because I was afraid of the same thing happening with Bovada. If I decide to play again, I will be going in with eyes wide open - knowing that there could be robots playing, colluders paying, and my funds could be seized at any minute. Base your deposit on that understanding and live your life. Yes, you could lose it all.
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Originally Posted by greatwhite
After what happened to Full Tilt do people actually trust Bovada? They've clearly emerged as the #1 site in the US with some fairly big games consistently running and should the DOJ go after them what are the chances everybody will get their money back?
Frankly I'm tired of this being brought up. Nothing against the posters, especially greatwhite, as I'm sure I've brought up points in a thread that were covered a million times too. But basically the DOJ and the U.S.A. in general have NO AUTHORITY to do anything to Bovada. They did have powers to shut down the PS and FT "dot.coms" and to stop their payment processors that were located in the U.S. None of those are factors with Bovada as they are neither a "dot.com" or have U.S. based payment processors. Bovada knows this and even advertises on major U.S. radio stations since they know they are untouchable. As far as sajeffe's comments go, OK that's fine. There are risks in everything in life. You risk getting shot by an errant bullet when you walk out of your house. Yet we take risks that prove to be pretty safe everyday. Bovada's track record of payouts speaks for itself. Could they screw you over one day? Yeah, it's possible, but so could Stars right? Is it possible your 9-high straight flush is beat by a Jack-high straight flush. Yes, but what are you going to do on the river, fold? Play and be merry.
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03-26-2015 , 04:13 PM
^^

I trust Bovada as well, but that still isn't a reason to put yourself in a bad situation. Just deposit as little as possible and cash out as much as possible.
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03-26-2015 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mjcace
Would be great if bovada offered 6 max hyper sngs at all the levels they offer 9 man hyper sngs, most ppl prefer 6 max when you get 300 to chips to start imo

edit: would also be great to have an option not have the pop up box you have to click whenever a tourney starts. i imagine this is annoying to all types of players

I.E, you are timing down with a decision on table 1, you make up your mind go to click all in on table 1 but it doesn't work and you time out because a new tourney popped up and the pop up box has to be clicked before anything else on the site
All of this. And the pop up is super frustrating but doesn't catch me off guard anymore. I'm hip to that **** now.
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03-26-2015 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mjcace
Would be great if bovada offered 6 max hyper sngs at all the levels they offer 9 man hyper sngs, most ppl prefer 6 max when you get 300 to chips to start imo

edit: would also be great to have an option not have the pop up box you have to click whenever a tourney starts. i imagine this is annoying to all types of players

I.E, you are timing down with a decision on table 1, you make up your mind go to click all in on table 1 but it doesn't work and you time out because a new tourney popped up and the pop up box has to be clicked before anything else on the site
Agreed on the 6max hypers.

Also, look into "StackAndTile". It closes the popups automatically. There's a 15 day trial.
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03-26-2015 , 07:20 PM
What are the options to deposit on Bovada? I would like to deposit 1k

i have tried depositing via credit card, which is the only option I see, and i always get stuck on this screen :

"This deposit is being processed using Verified by Visa."
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03-26-2015 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkvFish
What are the options to deposit on Bovada? I would like to deposit 1k

i have tried depositing via credit card, which is the only option I see, and i always get stuck on this screen :

"This deposit is being processed using Verified by Visa."
Call Bovada and deposit over the phone. They generally have a better success rate over the phone.
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03-26-2015 , 08:54 PM
nice that they have a phone number to cantact them and speak to a human
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03-26-2015 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Tropics
Frankly I'm tired of this being brought up. Nothing against the posters, especially greatwhite, as I'm sure I've brought up points in a thread that were covered a million times too. But basically the DOJ and the U.S.A. in general have NO AUTHORITY to do anything to Bovada. They did have powers to shut down the PS and FT "dot.coms" and to stop their payment processors that were located in the U.S. None of those are factors with Bovada as they are neither a "dot.com" or have U.S. based payment processors. Bovada knows this and even advertises on major U.S. radio stations since they know they are untouchable. As far as sajeffe's comments go, OK that's fine. There are risks in everything in life. You risk getting shot by an errant bullet when you walk out of your house. Yet we take risks that prove to be pretty safe everyday. Bovada's track record of payouts speaks for itself. Could they screw you over one day? Yeah, it's possible, but so could Stars right? Is it possible your 9-high straight flush is beat by a Jack-high straight flush. Yes, but what are you going to do on the river, fold? Play and be merry.
Bovada closed my wife's account and mine, and confiscated (Stole) all the funds and poker point value because she posted her refer a friend link and stated that there was no need for the depositing player to actually play before withdrawing. Nobody even took the offer, but they still closed BOTH of our accounts. They had no problem accepting the deposits and rake of previous referred friends and family.

Read the terms of service, they are completely at their discretion to steal your money without recourse other than lodging a complaint with the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

They can do whatever they wish, at any time, for whatever reason they wish.
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03-26-2015 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by madcatz1999
What's only 7 days?

Game transactions are 31 days.
Cash statements are 31 days.

Those two would cover what he's referring to, I would think.

Even hand histories are 31 days, if you view them in-client.
my files in hand history/game transactions that are before march 19'th all say: "download period expired".

thanks
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03-26-2015 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray Tayek
my files in hand history/game transactions that are before march 19'th all say: "download period expired".

thanks
That's correct. You have 7 days to download them to your computer. After that, you can view them in the Bovada client for 30/31 days but cannot get the files.
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03-26-2015 , 11:13 PM
Anyone having problems getting on the site right now? I tried from two different internet connections and couldn't get on. However I was able to login to the website itself. I was playing earlier this evening with no problems. I'm on a pc fwiw. Thanks guys!
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03-27-2015 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Twiggy220
Anyone having problems getting on the site right now? I tried from two different internet connections and couldn't get on. However I was able to login to the website itself. I was playing earlier this evening with no problems. I'm on a pc fwiw. Thanks guys!
i just played a hand in the zone.

thanks
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03-27-2015 , 12:04 AM
blinds in these plo8 tourneys go way too slow
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03-27-2015 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pollce State
Bovada closed my wife's account and mine, and confiscated (Stole) all the funds and poker point value because she posted her refer a friend link and stated that there was no need for the depositing player to actually play before withdrawing. Nobody even took the offer, but they still closed BOTH of our accounts. They had no problem accepting the deposits and rake of previous referred friends and family.

Read the terms of service, they are completely at their discretion to steal your money without recourse other than lodging a complaint with the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

They can do whatever they wish, at any time, for whatever reason they wish.
I'm sorry this post is confusing. Where did your wife post this refer a friend link where Bovada saw it and then closed your accounts?

Also did you have a significant amount of money on there? And did you file a complaint with the gaming commission? If so how did that go?
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03-27-2015 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by suspectdevice
can you get an audit from bovada of your account activity and if so how far back can it go?
Update: I called bovada and they actually do provide an audit of your entire deposit/withdrawl history. If you ask they will email within a couple of hours.
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03-27-2015 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Pots-For-Sale
I'm sorry this post is confusing. Where did your wife post this refer a friend link where Bovada saw it and then closed your accounts?

Also did you have a significant amount of money on there? And did you file a complaint with the gaming commission? If so how did that go?
I'd rather not share any specifics. Her account was less than 1k, not a insignificant amount but not big. few k points. Mine was empty as I've been playing on WPN the last few months.

She hasn't filed a complaint yet, this all went down in the last 48 hours. Prior to this there had been no issues at all with them.
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03-27-2015 , 02:47 AM
Without knowing the whole story, the 1 K confiscation sounds harsh, but if I understand the story correctly, I love the idea that they closed your accounts for spamming and suggesting bonus abuse.
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03-27-2015 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Pollce State
Bovada closed my wife's account and mine, and confiscated (Stole) all the funds and poker point value because she posted her refer a friend link and stated that there was no need for the depositing player to actually play before withdrawing. Nobody even took the offer, but they still closed BOTH of our accounts. They had no problem accepting the deposits and rake of previous referred friends and family.

Read the terms of service, they are completely at their discretion to steal your money without recourse other than lodging a complaint with the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

They can do whatever they wish, at any time, for whatever reason they wish.
id ban your wife too.

being spammed affiliate offers is sooo annoying.

i dont need that sh*** while playing poker
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03-27-2015 , 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pollce State
Bovada closed my wife's account and mine...
They can do whatever they wish, at any time, for whatever reason they wish.
While they can do basically whatever they want at any time (that's why lawyers draw up the terms and conditions) the main thing to remember is that Bovada almost never does. (Just about any gambling site has all the power but they generally don't just abuse their customers. The ones that do, like Lock, quickly get exposed here and lose our business). I've been playing on Bovada for years and have had no problems and I'm sure there are lots of posters here who would say the same thing. What I've found is that as long as you're doing things honestly you can always call them with any issues and, if you're not a douche, things will get resolved pretty quick.
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03-27-2015 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Without knowing the whole story
Yea.. well I'm not surprised that 2+2 immediately used the words "spamming" and "abuse" without having any idea about the details. I just told the guy who asked about their trustworthiness to warn him, since there are posters saying how impeccable they are.

The bottom line is Bovada closed our accounts and stole the money with no warning whatsoever, no recourse, just our money is suddenly theirs. It can happen to you to, just fyi before you deposit. That's it.
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