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04-20-2017 , 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KL03
This is really a problem for the less popular games like LHE and LO8. I'm willing to play either game at a wide range of stakes 6 handed or 9 handed. Previously, I could get a good idea of which games were going (if they had empty seats), but now I have to keep guessing. It's just empty table after empty table. I gave up, and I'm sure a lot of other people are giving up too.

They really should tell us how many tables are running at each type of game.
yeah this is really terrible, and it's even true with many popular games at off-peak hours. going through this whole rigmarole over and over without ever knowing if any games are running is ridiculous. I strongly encourage everyone to email them and complain - if enough people threaten to pull their business they'll listen.

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https://www.ignitioncasino.eu/?pushdown=contact-us
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04-20-2017 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by flimpy
yeah this is really terrible, and it's even true with many popular games at off-peak hours. going through this whole rigmarole over and over without ever knowing if any games are running is ridiculous. I strongly encourage everyone to email them and complain - if enough people threaten to pull their business they'll listen.

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https://www.ignitioncasino.eu/?pushdown=contact-us
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04-20-2017 , 04:36 AM
Has anyone noticed that in the tournaments the player numbers are messed up, as in it shows a different player number than what it actually is? Just wondering if anyone else encountered this today
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04-20-2017 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ontiltinchicago
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Sent email as well. They should at least include the option to seat that was previously available.

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04-20-2017 , 07:53 AM
They need to fix it so you can see how many players are at each stake and also waiting for action at HU.
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04-20-2017 , 07:55 AM
It's kind of hilarious (and sad) seeing so many of you crying so hard about this. Yeah the update sucks, but it's not the end of poker as you know it. Or maybe it is depending how you look at it.

Adapt or die.
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04-20-2017 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MichaelJordan23
It's kind of hilarious (and sad) seeing so many of you crying so hard about this. Yeah the update sucks, but it's not the end of poker as you know it. Or maybe it is depending how you look at it.

Adapt or die.
Nobody is saying this one update is the end of poker. We are saying this is potentially another nail in the coffin. First the games get separated from the sports book, so we lose potential crossover gamblers. Less games are spread. Rake has went up. Signup bonuses are worse. If this new system alienates recs rather than helps them it too is another nail in the coffin. No other site uses this seating system. As the site (and really all in general) continues down this path, then yes eventually one of these stupid ****ing updates will be the end of online poker. Also some people can only play on ignition because of their jurisdiction, making changes effect them that much more.

It's kind of hilarious (and sad) seeing such a poker social Darwinist apex predator like yourself not realizing this.
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04-20-2017 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by KL03

They really should tell us how many tables are running at each type of game.
+1
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04-20-2017 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by KL03
This is really a problem for the less popular games like LHE and LO8. I'm willing to play either game at a wide range of stakes 6 handed or 9 handed. Previously, I could get a good idea of which games were going (if they had empty seats), but now I have to keep guessing. It's just empty table after empty table. I gave up, and I'm sure a lot of other people are giving up too.

They really should tell us how many tables are running at each type of game.
This (and some of the other aforementioned complaints) is what did it for me. Requested withdrawal. 48 hours..... SMH.
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04-20-2017 , 09:52 AM
The one thing I noticed last night is my tables would "die" after awhile. Like for the first hour or so when someone sat up someone else insta sat in. Sure there'd be some fluctuations with people instantly leaving and such, but for the most part table was always full.

However, after a few hours, it was like they stopped filling the table. 1 would get up, no replacement. Then another seat opens, then another. I figured perhaps tables were breaking/consolidating, so I'd leave, and get instantly sat at a full table. So I'm not sure thats the case but I was mildly annoyed that a few of my good/deep tables were breaking.

I do think a # of tables selection button would be nice so you don't have to click "next" 4 times. First world problems.
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04-20-2017 , 10:03 AM
Fwiw this is how online poker should have resolved so many of the issues it has had wrt to game selection. Stars could have implemented the same system in 2009 and it would help kill all the seat scripting **** then you could create and algorithm to give time penalties to serial game hoppers etc...
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04-20-2017 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ontiltinchicago
You guys don't get it.

This was implemented to lower the income of winning players.
Nobody here gets it but me. Ignition is owned by a Hong Kong company, right? It's obviously the Chinese government taking it out on American poker players because of something Donald did (or said).
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04-20-2017 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by steveperry
I feel like a lot of recs won't like this, or maybe I'm just hoping that. Idk. The fact that they repeatedly sit you on the same table over and over is moronic. Recs like table selection too. Lucky tables, avoiding unlucky tables or players they don't like, tables named after their favorite sports team.
Recs and table selection shouldn't even be in the same sentence. The majority of recs just want to get in a game as fast as possible.
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04-20-2017 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by outfit
I have been disabling auto post blind. Then i open a table, sit, open another sit another.... Stay on the ones I like, close the ones I dont like. Repeat. Not so bad.
I guarantee, they will force auto post in the near future.
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04-20-2017 , 11:21 AM
People in here are starting to sound like Hilary supporters after Trump won...

#NotMyIgnition

If you don't like it, don't play there, simple as that.

But even with these changes if you can't beat the game on Ignition, maybe you should consider not playing poker at all, there isn't a weaker player pool on the internet.
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04-20-2017 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by hublot
People in here are starting to sound like Hilary supporters after Trump won...

#NotMyIgnition

If you don't like it, don't play there, simple as that.

But even with these changes if you can't beat the game on Ignition, maybe you should consider not playing poker at all, there isn't a weaker player pool on the internet.
I'm not sure it is the weakest. I've been told by people I trust that Sky Poker is paper soft. For US players this is about as good as it gets.
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04-20-2017 , 11:38 AM
This seems like a tactic to generate more rake. In the 30-60 Fixed Omaha Hi/Lo games you would have a full game and then several 2 or 3 handed games. These 2 or 3 handed games only generated $1 rake.

Not only are they trying to get more rake by making sure players go to games that are running with the most people, they are taking away your right to play short handed or heads up. A lot of people at higher stakes only want to play heads up or short.

There should be several complaints until they change back. This is totally going to kill the Omaha games.
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04-20-2017 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by donkANALysis
Recs and table selection shouldn't even be in the same sentence. The majority of recs just want to get in a game as fast as possible.
Maybe the majority of recs do feel the way you say they do. Maybe I know a rec or recs that like to choose their tables. Maybe different people have had different experiences that lead to different conclusions. Thanks for your input. Maybe.
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04-20-2017 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by steveperry
Maybe the majority of recs do feel the way you say they do. Maybe I know a rec or recs that like to choose their tables. Maybe different people have had different experiences that lead to different conclusions. Thanks for your input. Maybe.
Pretty much this. The truth is always somewhere in the middle, but opinions in this thread tend to be pretty polar .
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04-20-2017 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Boodabor
that's definitely possible, but we're talking about averages here. With clockwise seating, other regs get the opportunity to wait for a table to pop up with a rec player at it and take the best position. Games are unlikely to fully start before a rec sits down, and once a rec player sits, the table will likely fill with regs pretty quickly. Obviously this isn't always the case, but I think that with this clockwise way of seating people, the seats to the left of a table starter are much more likely to have rec players than the seats to his right.
you're really grasping here. the games are still anonymous.
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04-20-2017 , 02:40 PM
My PLO tables last night consistently broke if someone ran up a stack of 4 or 5 buyins. Any time someone got to that point, people would stop getting seated at my table, or if they did, they'd often insta-leave. See ya deep-stacked poker on Vada.
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04-20-2017 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by just_mo
My PLO tables last night consistently broke if someone ran up a stack of 4 or 5 buyins. Any time someone got to that point, people would stop getting seated at my table, or if they did, they'd often insta-leave. See ya deep-stacked poker on Vada.
I do wonder if they are going to continue letting people take money off the table.Only, to hop right back in... Just seems wrong.
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04-20-2017 , 03:35 PM
When I first logged in and saw the update I thought to myself, "Wow, another Bovada VS winning regs update, sucks."

But now that I think about it, this update is just like the anonymous player system itself.. and honestly, it's very good for winning regulars!

Allow me to elaborate further into my reasoning..

First of all, this update is going to be good for the average recreational player/fish. The recreational player does not want to table select.. he/she just wants to get on a table and get in the action in a fair, fun game of poker. He/she does not want to be a target to all the winning players, and definitely does not want to watch as everyone sits out after he busts waiting to see if he buys back in or leaves (this is so demoralizing and will hurt their feelings, causing them to be less likely to redeposit or use the rest of their money playing poker instead of the casino). When the casual player enjoys themselves and has more of a chance to win, they will enjoy themselves more. If the recreational player will enjoy himself more than he/she did before the update, they will be more encouraged to deposit money onto the site, which is good for the winning player in the long term as well.

Second of all, this update will end the heads up bumhunting travesty. Heads up is such a fun game to play, but sadly these bumhunting grinders have taken all fun and challenge out of the game and have created a process to which they only play bad players they have a good advantage against. Lots of fish/recreational players play heads up all the time. Previously, they had to choose one of the 4-25 tables that regulars are all waiting at to pounce on any fish that takes a seat. Now, the regulars cannot just simply sit at a table and wait for a fish. Once a player sits at a heads up table, that table will get filled by the next player that decides to enter the heads up pool. This will cause regulars to get matched against each other more frequently, meaning the actually good, winning regulars will be able to win money vs the ****ty bumhunting regulars that quite frankly need to get taken out the game anyways. On the other hand, if you are a fish that enters the heads up pool, you might even find yourself starting your own heads up table instead of joining one! And since you should get action rather quickly, they won't be bothered starting their own tables, and no one will really know what type of player they are playing until a decent number of hands go by.. meaning the fish has more of a chance to play against players that are readless against them, giving them more of a chance to win and thus a happier fish that will be more likely to play poker and deposit more in the long run! (I can't tell you how much I hate the heads up bumhunting squad, and I am so happy this will likely be the end of them, if not extremely slowing them down!)

Third point, collusion and cheating will be way harder to accomplish. Of course this is rare anyways, but is still something that happens and is a good thing that it will be much harder to get away with.

Fourth point, more games should be getting started this way.. maybe not in the short term as players are whining and refusing to play after this update... but eventually they will come back and play, trust me. If you can't figure out why yourself; because there will be little to no table selection anymore, players will just be forced to get in the action rather than wait around for a good game to appear in the lobby list. More games getting started is always good for winning players. More games to play in general means more higher stakes games that will end up running.. which is good for winning regulars as higher stakes means higher income.


The only type of player that this update is BAD for:

1) Bumhunters
2) People that cannot win without table selecting massive fish(es) in their game


So suck it bumhunters, I'll see you in the heads up pool.


Edit/note: They need to fix the fact that you can instantly sit back in at a table after leaving it, thus being able to rathole and end deepstack poker. I am quite positive they will fix this soon

Last edited by ImSaggitarius; 04-20-2017 at 03:44 PM.
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04-20-2017 , 03:52 PM
IMSaggitarius, I have to disagree with you on if it'll hurt bumhunters, it just merely changes how they bumhunt. You have the option of sitting out and not post the blind and if you don't like the table you can simply stand up and try to get a different table.
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04-20-2017 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TheStuntman
IMSaggitarius, I have to disagree with you on if it'll hurt bumhunters, it just merely changes how they bumhunt. You have the option of sitting out and not post the blind and if you don't like the table you can simply stand up and try to get a different table.
The practice will get curved though. Once you hit your table cap you're out of luck.
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