Do any of you have experience playing on ignition using starlink or I guess any online poker site in general? My 3mb dsl connection by windstream (in the year of our lord 2024!) is giving us issues, and there is some talk in our house of biting the bullet on starlink. Maybe this is a little offtopic but I really don't have a better place to post this.

The latency on starlink is very good. Maybe not good enough for something like online esports, but it should be totally fine for Bovada and their infinite time banks.

Bot situation still fkd or they cleaned house?

I don't think it has changed in a week.

I just had two(!) broken bots on my last $44 6max table. They auto folded like 99% of their hands for 90 minutes.

Should I report them to the e-mail reps or forum mods? Or don't even waste my time?

Wasting your time, they are not banning anyone nor refunding.

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Hello world, my name is Sergey and this is my last contribution to this miserable existence...

I cant take it anymore. I've lost everything dear to me. My wife and son were killed in a horrific accident. This isn't worth it anymore. I can't bear this pain inside of me that is eating me ever since they were gone. I cant keep going without them. This guilt I carry on top of this pain... it's become unbearable. So finally im coming clean.

I've been a poker player for 10 years now. I'm part of a stable of grinders designed to grind out every penny possible out of the beast, the elite benefits program, and every fool that dares step on the virtual felt with us. We call it Variance Free. We've made so much money over the years with our no longer super secret stable. Yes. We cheat. We card share, we collude, we've been sharing data and hand histories well before these pay to win sites started data mining and selling it to the public. We were doing MDA well before it became mainstream. This system allows us to play perfectly against any opponent. We make perfect folds preflop and postflop, we make claivoyant checkbacks with clear value hands that would be bets according to theory, we make "bad" thin value bets according to theory, and loose raises in spots opponents will almost always fold once we know what cards have been folded. During preflop, we play in a way that maximizes our chances of hitting sets, flushes, etc in order to cooler everyone else. By knowing which cards have been folded, we can "speculate" in perfect situations, and can also cold call hands that normally wouldnt, e.g AK, KK and QQ in certain situations where we know certain cards are still in the deck. This is why some players feel like the deck on WPN is fixed because we always cooler everyone like this, so it seems like variance to most- and those who suspect rng fixing and voice it out would never be believed by those that understand variance at a surface level. Maximum exploit is the name of the game. Downswings are not really a thing for us as you can probably deduce by now. But we don't go overboard like some others who don't care and make it too obvious. We carefully craft our moves as to not look suspicious about the collusion and play the cooler hands standardly against each other. Also sprinkle a fair amount of bluffs. That's how we've been able to stay undetected for so long and milking the Beast on Winning Poker Network. Not that they care too much about their security in the first place haha. They allow other stables to make use of bots fairly easily without many issues. Once they figure out which accounts are the bots, they've already worked on more advanced ways to make the future bots go undetected and play more human like. Bots were not our goal, however. We figured that by deploying our Variance Free system we could make 3x more money than by running bots that can't adjust on the fly as we can. It's all about max exploitation.

But no more. I've got nothing else to lose now, and since this is it, i might as well lse it all at this point.

This is the list of some of us who play during the same shift and some I know from other stables: (there are many others but we do different shifts and I haven't met them)

VegetablesArentYummy
IgLa
PayNCry
revolution_
Parcker
PANDAisEVIL
AironVega
ludomen
NLCHAKRA
BruhCringe
BungEyedHoe
BukhnoG83
FREDYBULLIT
DesertEagle21
Reelest
RyanGippa
Bertlschosch
OtxentxaOtxo
sfn100
UncleSam84
Rufous_Nightjar
TRUEskawka
Merrk
Cube.com

One last thing before i go for good- i don't care if you want to call me a thief, a scum or a piece of ****. I deserve it and will take the shame with me to the grave. But at least I've taken this off my chest and can now rest in pain, but guilt free. Good bye.


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Cross posting this for everyone here who told me off for saying the bots are exploitative.
And yes I know this is ACR, but it’s pretty obviously the same group on ignition.

99% sure that post is some kind of troll. Cant speak for all of them, but i have played a bunch with a couple of those guys and they never seemed like they were cheating in any way. Some of these guys play way higher than others as well. Cant remember who of the russian regs that know them, but i know that some of the russian hs regs know nlchakra and aironvega and said they are legit.

If they are doing what the poster claims then how do you know? I've played a ton with most of these guys btw.

What would be the purpose of the troll and why such a specific list of names?
The guy named most of the Russian /Ukrainian 200b grinders but not all of them.

Look at how they play and look at their results. None of these guys are some explo monster or play some super MDA-driven strategy. Never seen a hand that would imply that anyone in that list would collude. NLCHAKRA also have been playing anywhere from nl100 to nl5k asfaik. I'm very sure that someone from the names mentioned will post and defend themselves. The only thing these guys have in common is that they play a lot of 200 blitz and they are primarily rakeback grinders. Why would some of these guys collude at 200 blitz and play without other team mates at 2k-5k?

well this got awkward really fast. confirmation biases at it best. future might not be good for some people if Ai is able to fake voice, image.

I think the idea is it’s a stable that has human operators playing different shifts but sharing the same bot accounts, hence the wide range of stakes observed. You didn’t answer my question though of why it would be a troll. Some reg is salty at other regs? So they make a 2p2 account and post into the absolute void this site is? (I mean it’s not like ACR reps are gonna read/do something about this) and the post isn’t made with the expectation that something is gonna be done.
I’ll be interested to see if this account replies again, it not, I agree it looks more like a troll/vendetta

Seems fake they're losing and under EV over 825k hands

Yeah that's true. I saw only PandaisEvil playing 5k.

And it is consistent with a bunch of those names that they play mostly like RB/points grinders.

Very weird post though. I don't understand the motivation to post such a thing in the way it was written.

Well, it did sound like he was under mental distress.

I thought he prefaced it with saying he was going to off himself.

If this is true you should surely know none of these guys are anywhere near good enough to be colluding to the extent he's claiming. In my database most of these guys(the one I got hands on) aren't winners pre-rb and some aren't even winning post-rb.

I have no idea what the purpose of that post is, but if those guys are actually colluding they are easily the worst colluders ever. Specifically the line where he says ''we make perfect folds pre and postflop''. If you have played a ton with these guys you know for a fact this is not true at all. Not even a little bit.

ACR is obviously bot infested but this list that was provided is not part of what ever group you're thinking of. These guys aren't even winning pre-rb. To me, they've always seemed like the annoying **** regs who grind RB.

Would also say that the English is ''Sergeys'' post is way too good for it to be a legitimate Russian/Ukrainian reg.

Yeah that aligns with what I have on them. But still I was open to the fact it could be true in some way that maybe I didn't realize or didn't see. It's not like I'm playing with all of them at the same time all the time.

But yeah like I said Parcker is a slight loser pre RB. And players like PaynCry and AironVega play sort of a similar tight nitty style so my guess would be they are probably similar results wise, but I haven't checked.

I see you've been banned for politarding.
You called me a moron for expressing a viewpoint about bots some pages ago and now you reply to me as if we're having a normal discussion, that's some real weaksauce dawg. Have some respect for me and yourself.
I have way higher samples and knowledge of these guys than you as I play them on a daily basis. I also think aironvega is legit fwiw as he has made some good adjustments against me.
There could be partial truth to what this guy is saying and I find it unlikely that there isn't at least *some* truth to it even if he has the details wrong or some of the names wrong.
I'm still waiting for one of the named players to self-identify and/or "sergey" to post again but I'm also prepared for it have been a troll and I think its worth american regs who read this thread and the ACR thread knowing about either way.

That post is almost certainly a troll. I think at least one of those players is a twitch streamer too.

How dead is zone? I just started playing again last week and haven't seen more than 35 in the 200 pool.

like 99% sure veggies is an American 2+2 poster that has been around a long while.

edit: yeah, hundredsofstuff, been around for like 15 years