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11-02-2011 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by b finkelstein
hey becky, anyway you could help us out with this rakeupdate situation they have stolen hundreds of thousands from your loyal customers thank you







~barry
lol.. seriously.. i just owned you in the other bodog thread.. and here you are still spreading your rakeback garbage? lol

Last edited by nub; 11-02-2011 at 09:00 AM. Reason: missing statement
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11-02-2011 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Odds_Master
Not sure if you ever stumbled upon this very informative thread... but I took the liberty to take tid bits of very pertinent information that might save you guys from incurring a bounce check. I've yet to deposit anything on Bodog but had a friend who withdrawed funds from there about 2 weeks ago. I'll keep you updated on its progress!

This is certainly a good read for those who want to deposit on Bodog and want to be ahead of the game!

For the meanwhile seek your teeth on this info:


"What methods are working for deposits and withdrawals?

Credit cards, debit cards and gift cards no longer work in most cases, although there are some reports here and there of something working (watch the various forum threads for details). Currently, most of the sites have available echecks (ACH transactions), wire transfers and paper checks for US players. What is available can change daily, so check with the cashier at your site for specifics.

Which banks don't block poker transactions?

As this is an open forum, we don't post the names of banks, cards or other FSPs that are working. Posting the name here might alert someone in the banking industry or government. If you know of an FSP that works, you can offer to provide the name by PM to regular 2+2 posters.

What type of bank should I use (large, small, credit union, etc.)?

The purpose for having a separate account at a different bank for your poker transactions is to prevent disruption of your regular banking should your banking institution decide to close your account due to "illegal online gambling" transactions. (The worst they do is close your account and give you your money, and possibly refuse the poker deposit. They don't seize your money.)

I continue to recommend use of a local credit union, as opposed to a "nationwide" bank. With less personnel to dedicate to worthless purposes, and more catering to customer service, they tend to be a good option for poker accounts. I make all my iPoker deposits at my credit union account, and then transfer the money out to my regular banking account as soon as the deposit clears.

Almost all credit unions are part of the Co-op ATM network and/or the Credit Union 24/Allpoint ATM network, giving you access to fee-free deposits and withdrawals across the country at credit unions, 7-11, CVS, Walgreens, etc. Most also offer great online banking with easy external bank transfer services (allowing you to transfer money in and out of your CU account).

With free checking, competitive interest rates and personal customer service, you'll probably end up wanting to do all your banking at a CU, as I did. So be prepared to find two CUs - one for your regular banking and one for your poker transactions. You don't have to stick with just local CUs. While they all have customer membership qualifications (your county of residence, your organization membership, your employer, etc.), most provide at least one organization qualification that pretty much anyone anywhere can meet. The Chicago-based credit union I use (Bmmjbou Dsfeju Vojpo - use this letter decoder) allows anyone to join who is a member of a local PTA anywhere in the country - join your local PTA for a year and you are in.


How do I deal with depositing a paper check at my bank?

An atm deposit is a good option. If the check has an ABA routing 9-digit number followed by the bank account number imprinted along the bottom [MICR encoding] it can be deposited in your bank account without the need for it to be sent for collection.

Paper check withdrawals are ofttimes issued on a Canadian bank. If it has the MICR encoding, it will be processed just the same as a US check. However, sometimes an improperly trained bank teller, seeing a Canadian check, will mistakenly claim that the check is foreign and has to be sent for collection, which can take weeks. Use the atm instead. If your atm has a check reader and rejects the Canadian check, your bank might have a more stringent policy. Use a different bank. You can also ask the cashier at your poker site if they can send only a check written on a US bank.

What about withdrawing large amounts? Should I break it up into smaller transactions to avoid suspicion?

A series of smaller transactions may be spotted as suspicious. Banks are required to file a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) on any transactions which seem suspicious, i.e. possibly related to illegal activities, regardless of the amount. They may be alert to series of structured transactions for this reason. Keep it simple - if you act in a way to hide what you are doing, you look more suspicious.

What do I say if my bank asks about my cashout deposit?

Don’t lie. The worst they can do is return your monies and close your account. Most likely they aren’t trying to find out if the deposit is from Internet poker, but rather are looking for other types of suspicious activity. You can say something unspecific such as you have an online business or you are being paid for some online work. If they press for more information, you can refuse to answer and, if necessary, take your business elsewhere. Or just tell them the truth - they might not care. If they do care, they will probably just give you a warning and you will know it is time to take your poker business to a different bank.

What do I say if my bank or credit card company asks about my credit card usage or puts a security hold on it?

Most likely they are just concerned that your credit card isn’t being used by someone who has stolen your card number. When you use your credit card to make a deposit to a poker site, the transaction may be blocked (based on the credit card coding system), or the transaction may get flagged as unusual as it doesn’t fit your ordinary purchasing patterns. In either case, the fraud department of your bank or your credit card company may put a hold on your credit card and try to contact you to verify that you initiated the transaction. Once you verify the transaction as yours, they will remove the hold and you can start using your card again. Do not tell them that you were making an Internet poker deposit; just verify that you were making an Internet purchase."

I guess its more then tid bits; but one healthy dose of info
Thank you. All nice tips.

Cashed out $ 700 on 10/19.
No updates.


Just spoke with Bodog Support. I was told that my check went out 10/21 and I should receive it by the week's end. I expressed my concern in that if it went out on the 21st, then I certainly should have received it by now. She was very nice, after I questioned that it actually went out. She kept referring to delays because a high volume of cash outs (probably something to do with football season as someone alluded to in an earlier thread). Also, she said no tracking numbers will be provided in this batch because of this so called mix up. Will update by week's end.
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11-02-2011 , 11:09 AM
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I make all my iPoker deposits at my credit union account, and then transfer the money out to my regular banking account as soon as the deposit clears.
wouldn't really recommend this
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11-02-2011 , 02:28 PM
Approved 10/17

Contacted them today and they said NFL season delays. Said check will reach me by end of the week.
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11-02-2011 , 03:14 PM
****KKKKKKKKKKKKKk bodog and their bs checks, yea offer me a 10 dollar compensation fee for the check bouncing F U
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11-02-2011 , 04:13 PM
Do all WA residents only have the western union and rapid transfer payout options? WU money transfers have been available within a couple days of requesting them. The only problem is it has been really sketchy picking up a money transfer from the Philippines. Ive gotten a ton of questions about it every time ive picked one up. And im really not positive on what to say. I've said it was a payment for some stuff i sold on ebay but the person working has been very skeptical. Any ideas on what i could say? And will there ever be any other payout options available?
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11-02-2011 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by LT22
wouldn't really recommend this
Why?

It seems like a plausible alternative. As mentioned, credit unions are more laxed and personal when it comes to banking then National Banks. National Banks have to follow a certain criteria as Credit Unions serve the public in a personal way. Would love to hear your thoughts though!
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11-02-2011 , 08:11 PM
because many times your bank/credit union will say your deposit has "cleared" when it actually hasn't. It is a safe alternative if you're waiting ~2 weeks for your deposit to clear.
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11-02-2011 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Odds_Master
Why?

It seems like a plausible alternative. As mentioned, credit unions are more laxed and personal when it comes to banking then National Banks. National Banks have to follow a certain criteria as Credit Unions serve the public in a personal way. Would love to hear your thoughts though!
Halstad mentioned one reason, the funds can bounce after they've been "released" by the bank

I have used a credit union since 2008 and they are AWESOME. Way less fees and less intrusive when it comes to poker transactions.

The biggest problem I had with the post about depositing at one bank (Bank A) and then immediately transferring funds to your other bank (Bank B). Bank B won't care. Bank A might be intrigued by your behavior and consider it suspicious.

Scenario) You have very little money in Bank A. You regularly deposit weird checks to your Bank A account. You then regularly remove that money from Bank A to Bank B shortly after the check clears. You use Bank A for little to nothing besides depositing checks from different weird sources and then removing the money from Bank A. If I worked at Bank A I might be a little suspicious. If you ever have a check bounce at Bank A, they are almost certainly going to be suspicious.

Establishing a history of depositing, using their debit card, writing a few checks, etc at Bank A is going to look A LOT better than depositing a check and then immediately removing the money to a diff bank account.

People tend to read something and then take it to the extreme, so I just don't want people to get the wrong idea. You should try to establish history/transactions with both banks. Your transactions at Bank A don't have to be large. Just use it once in a while for some stupid thing like McDonald's or Subway.
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11-02-2011 , 10:59 PM
Requested and Approved 10/19
Tracking# 11/02
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11-02-2011 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LT22
Halstad mentioned one reason, the funds can bounce after they've been "released" by the bank

I have used a credit union since 2008 and they are AWESOME. Way less fees and less intrusive when it comes to poker transactions.

The biggest problem I had with the post about depositing at one bank (Bank A) and then immediately transferring funds to your other bank (Bank B). Bank B won't care. Bank A might be intrigued by your behavior and consider it suspicious.

Scenario) You have very little money in Bank A. You regularly deposit weird checks to your Bank A account. You then regularly remove that money from Bank A to Bank B shortly after the check clears. You use Bank A for little to nothing besides depositing checks from different weird sources and then removing the money from Bank A. If I worked at Bank A I might be a little suspicious. If you ever have a check bounce at Bank A, they are almost certainly going to be suspicious.

Establishing a history of depositing, using their debit card, writing a few checks, etc at Bank A is going to look A LOT better than depositing a check and then immediately removing the money to a diff bank account.

People tend to read something and then take it to the extreme, so I just don't want people to get the wrong idea. You should try to establish history/transactions with both banks. Your transactions at Bank A don't have to be large. Just use it once in a while for some stupid thing like McDonald's or Subway.
Truth is spoken!

Yeah, it would be ill advised if you just use one bank to deposit then the other to store the funds. It would look like a minature money laundering operation lols! But its best suited if you do use a credit union instead of a National bank to deposit checks that are derived from online poker earnings.
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11-02-2011 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by caddymix024
Requested check for first time on 10/14. Have my fed ex tracking # and now just waiting on arrival. Hope it works out, my first time cashing off of Bodog.
check arrived yesterday. depositing on friday, will update then.
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11-02-2011 , 11:52 PM
Anyone have a check bounce, have Bodog tell you the funds are now there and please try to re-negotiate the check, then actually have the check not bounce a second time?
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11-03-2011 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by caddymix024
check arrived yesterday. depositing on friday, will update then.
I don't know your situation, but I would cash that check ASAP.
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11-03-2011 , 01:17 AM
got a check today after 12 business days. was wondering if you guys think its worth driving 130 miles to a neighboring state where a branch is located. i dont have an active bank account and dont wont to risk someone elses by signing it over and having it be returned.
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11-03-2011 , 01:24 AM
with all due respect, get a bank account wtf
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11-03-2011 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ryribb
got a check today after 12 business days. was wondering if you guys think its worth driving 130 miles to a neighboring state where a branch is located. i dont have an active bank account and dont wont to risk someone elses by signing it over and having it be returned.
If the check worth the drive, do it but get bank account ASAP.
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11-03-2011 , 02:14 AM
Again, I'm a little confused. Why does it matter to cash the check once you receive it? Enlighten me if you will
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11-03-2011 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Odds_Master
Again, I'm a little confused. Why does it matter to cash the check once you receive it? Enlighten me if you will
the quicker you deposit the check, the lower probability of the check bouncing
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11-03-2011 , 04:31 AM
Did they stop sending confirmation emails when requesting payouts? Just made one and it shows up as approved, but I didn't get any email or message in my client messages.
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11-03-2011 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Halstad
Did they stop sending confirmation emails when requesting payouts? Just made one and it shows up as approved, but I didn't get any email or message in my client messages.
The e-mails are intermittent, but 100% of my payouts show in the 'message' thing when you sign in via the web or through the client. If you don't have a waiting message saying its approved you might want to shoot them an e-mail just to make sure, but my guess is your account being debited is enough to know it worked - especially if its in included in your e-cash statement.

Also to the people talking about bank accounts - I don't like to agree with LT22 or whatever that often but I think he is right on this - I would always leave your bodog check in the account that it was deposited in for at least 2 weeks and I would even say one full month (but I err on the conservative side). It is not uncommon for a check to be 'approved' 3 days after its deposited via your banks website only to be rejected 7 days after that.

Your not doing anything illegal - why you would purposely money launder or structure (which is actually more relevant), which are both felonies, to get around something that is perfectly legal doesn't make much sense to me.
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11-03-2011 , 07:29 PM
Check of 1000 has been in my account for 5 business days. So far so good.
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11-03-2011 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nike63jon
Check of 1000 has been in my account for 5 business days. So far so good.
Thats good to hear bud! Hope the check has a backbone
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11-03-2011 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
The e-mails are intermittent, but 100% of my payouts show in the 'message' thing when you sign in via the web or through the client. If you don't have a waiting message saying its approved you might want to shoot them an e-mail just to make sure, but my guess is your account being debited is enough to know it worked - especially if its in included in your e-cash statement.

Also to the people talking about bank accounts - I don't like to agree with LT22 or whatever that often but I think he is right on this - I would always leave your bodog check in the account that it was deposited in for at least 2 weeks and I would even say one full month (but I err on the conservative side). It is not uncommon for a check to be 'approved' 3 days after its deposited via your banks website only to be rejected 7 days after that.

Your not doing anything illegal - why you would purposely money launder or structure (which is actually more relevant), which are both felonies, to get around something that is perfectly legal doesn't make much sense to me.
I agree, never spend a check right away that has pending issues. Wait 2 weeks as previously suggested! It would save you in the long run. And for the whole money laundering thing I wasn't suggested taking once check and facilitated to another account for those specific purposes. I was just inferring that its best to have 2 accounts just in case the bank closes your account based on the UIGEA bill. Its a smart option to explore!
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11-04-2011 , 12:01 AM
Approved 10/17

Received tracking number tonight
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