Have you reported them to acr security?

I don't think it's wise to report them right now. After all, they're just my suspicions. Note that I haven't seen suspected bots in action before and these are the first ones I actually suspect. The key takeaway is the very wide VPIP/PFR range which normally represents some big holes in their game. Although it's possible this widened because of the many heads-up encounters I had with them. Ironically, when I reviewed some big hands, they played almost perfect GTO. So it's also possible these are pros. But the wide VPIP/PFR range coupled with the perfect GTO type of players don't add up. So I suspect his stats were crafted this way to be maximum exploitive calling as wide as possible without being -EV but all else GTO play post flop. I've played with 4 different players with almost the exact same stats but the 4th one played a bit differently (like human) than the other 3. I only have 2k+ hands on each of them. Probably I'd have to see where this goes after I get a more significant sample.

Welcome to the club buddy. You are probably not wrong, depends on the nicknames. As i encounter, there are about 25 bots playing on nl25-50. Many players tried to report them (me too), but support just don`t care, because most of them playing for a long time (more than a year). They all have 2-3 betsizes, and flop aways 50% or 80%, have high wwsf, high bet in miss cbet and if they play on full stack, they always show u the nuts.

Yeah, u can try to report them, but you probably will have standard answer "We`ll investigate your report. If we find any type of fraudulent activity, we will take the necessary measures to rectify the situation.", and nothing changes. All we have is adaptation. Research their playstyle and try not to loose your money to them.

My list of bots:

Oh wow. 3 of the 4 of my suspected bots are on your list. Plus I play with a lot of the names in your list although they seem just solid regs.

By the way, I counted 11 on your list that I regularly play with at 25NL. But as for suspected bots, only 3 of those in your list I suspect. I didn't find anything strange with the rest... yet. The others seem like solid regulars though.

I'm not going to confirm actual names yet as I don't have enough statistical proof yet to call them out. It would be unfair if I misidentify them as bots if they turned out to be just regulars.

Bots seems to be mostly gone from what I can tell. There is a few accounts I play with that may potentially be weird, but assuming every Eastern Euro is a bot isn't the correct way to go about it. Even at lower stakes, they have a pretty good default game, it's a lot of money to them.

Country flag?

Who said anything about Eastern Euro?

Didn't look up their country of origin but I will the next time I come across them. I didn't catch them when I played yesterday.

There’s a few Chinese accounts in blitz that have weird stats like 31/23, but have gto postflop bet sizes/lines

ACR - The same slot machine, like other rooms, purely for money laundering.

hey this is the kind of stats I noticed too. There's like 4 I found in the likes of 34/23, 35/22, 32/22 but postflop gto lines. Not Chinese though. That's in 25NL tables.

got a chance to look them up now. 2 of my suspects are Russian Federation, 1 Belarus, 1 Armenia.

Ok, so I played some more with the suspected bot list posted above. I realized even with similar stats like 34/23, 35/22, and 32/22 they are actually of different "skill level". For my personal list of 4, the 2 Russians and 1 from Belarus seem to be of "incomplete skill programming." They still have a few holes that I was able to exploit. But the Armenian one... wow! I'm having doubts if he's a bot at all. In spite of having a 34/23/10 stat, perfect post flop game. His arsenal of skills is full. This is the kind of regular solid player I see in 50NL.

What is GTO?

GTO = Game Theory Optimal

Not sure if you're trolling though.

Ha. I am not trolling. I'm old. I've heard of game theory, but I have never heard the term game theory optimal. This sounds too esoteric for me to understand.

I see. Well it's been the thing since last decade to the point that it's very hard to succeed in 50NL+ long term without a solid understanding of GTO lines. Many of these lines are counterintuitive and needs a good deal of study to master. By the way, I haven't mastered them yet which is why I'm not a 50NL+ crusher. But I recognize a lot of these lines on regs when I showdown and realize there's no way they could have played it the way they did without excellent GTO knowledge.

Hi all ... Dumb question: I was just now playing three tables on 1/2 NL Blitz, while also playing a small MTT. While playing, that human verification thing popped up. I was in the middle of a couple big hands, so I just click whatever and apparently answered wrong.

Am I going to have a problem, i.e., be flagged as a bot or something? I already emailed support.

PS, this was on ACR.

If you fail too many times, they might block your account. So just finish the human verification test first next time. It's annoying I know, but that's the first layer of anti-bot security they have. Maybe in the future they will come up with a better way to do this.

So this is my first time trying to play on ACR. I sent 1k ETH and it's been confirmed over 130 times now. Still no funds in my account. Is Virtual Assistant and email really the only way to get in touch with these people? I really hate having my money in limbo.

edit: didnt realize there was a wpn cashier thread, posting there now

This is just a list of bad 50nl russian regs, not a list of bots.

Really? So they're just regs. I thought Suubaarashii was pretty good though.

Their might be a few bots here and there on that list. But I recognize a bunch of those names and they aren't bots.

It's ridiculous to think that you could actually figure out who is a bot or not from one guys sample of hands is ridiculous. You need hundreds of thousands of hands on the same players for stats such as c bet or check raise to converge, and be able to identify them as bots.

Yes their Russian/Eastern European, yes they might be nitty, but they're not all bots. They're guys trying to move up the stakes in poker, just like us and I'd rather not slander them unfounded.

Edit: I'm talking more to the first guy than you.

Nitty? Lol, best pattern for the bot is the high wwsf and high cold call range. And ofc player must be from CIS region. Yeah, i can agree that few people in my list can be real humans. But it`s probably 1-3 at the best. I don`t have to play with them many hands, because you can watch their stats on sites like statname. I just post here most obvious examples and u can check others yourself.







Just look at their stats. It feel like the same stats, doesn`t it? And if u think about it, just a little bit, it`s quite unique, because if u look at the standart regs, u will see completely different picture.







I just show u part of their stats, but look at their CC and especially donks. Compare their stats with any reg you know, who you 100% sure is human. Maybe after this you will release your eyes from rose-colored glasses and see the real picture, that amount of bots are much more than you ever realized.