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09-18-2015 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Kounterfit
Just out of curiosity, what's the time table between sending in the contact to the first coaching session?
It could be one day (in theory). In practise it depends how fast you go through the starter-kit. Depending on which game type / scheduled coaching (6m, HU, PLO, SNG or other) we have some jump-start material, which you are required to study.

Make it 3-6 days, but like everything, it depends on how fast and badly you want things!

Also, right now (at this moment), we simplified the process, but we hopefully fix all bugs.
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09-18-2015 , 12:54 PM
Hey Gordon,

I received an email saying I have access to the the newbie portion of BPC. When I tried to login none of my account details work. I want to get started!
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09-20-2015 , 05:10 AM
You guys need to let US players play HU i think the volume is lack like it is for an US player but its by far the fishiest and easily doable
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09-20-2015 , 05:41 AM
Is the 6max hyper format also aiming to reach a goal of 60k/9 months?
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09-20-2015 , 06:27 AM
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Is the 6max hyper format also aiming to reach a goal of 60k/9 months?
Perhaps even more than that. We have no practical data on this one because it is a new program.

But bencb679 is obviously a world class player and a great coach, so this should easily be possible.

What i always wanna mention is that the dedication of the student is the most important part.

One of our HU stars - Nubson from Poland - had some nasty rough 2 months. Ran like 6k below EV and didn't make much money at all. He already made 10k/month before that.
Many people in his spot would have given up or gone crazy.
He has proven himself to be a champion and is already up 6,2k Euro this month.

Every players has a moment(s) like that where they have to show what they are made of. It's in the tough times where the good and able differentiate themselves from the rest.

In summary, you can achieve the 60k in 9 months and actually even a lot faster than that. A LOT faster. But it depends on you, how much of a pu$$y you're gonna be in the tough times.
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09-20-2015 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dare2dream
You guys need to let US players play HU i think the volume is lack like it is for an US player but its by far the fishiest and easily doable
At this moment we can't offer HU to USA based players. 6max should be a great option tho!
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09-20-2015 , 09:44 AM
what's your definition of "world class players"? do these players crush 5k 6max on stars and the biggest HU games?
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09-20-2015 , 11:32 AM
I think being Top10-15 in the world in their respective discipline/limit is a good definition.

When you eliminate "limit" , then it would equate to the overall best in the world.

If you have or know of a good (or better) definition, let me know.

(http://www.bestpokercoaching.com/int...-ben-bencb789/)
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09-20-2015 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Thelegend700
Hey Gordon,

I received an email saying I have access to the the newbie portion of BPC. When I tried to login none of my account details work. I want to get started!
Many issues that users complain are actually our fault. Technical errors and such.

Your case is different. This is because you f-ed up the application in every way possible by being sloppy on the data input. Your BPC username was missing and we took like 20min figuring out by smart guessing who you are.

If you want to make it at this game, you can't be sloppy with the little things.

You still got some back-end stuff to do. Do it RIGHT the first time and u wont lose time. There is no cutting corners inside our system. Our whole system is one big acceleration/abreviation/shortcut of the "normal" way.
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09-21-2015 , 02:05 AM
I see in your thread title that you claim there is "No Bull****". Are you touting a selling point here? Do you feel like you have been completely honest and transparent person in your thread? The reason I ask is this....

It's out on the street now that many posters have in one way or another asked you questions and you've given dodgy answers (to put it in a polite way). Would you say that you have always answered questions in this thread with "NO Bull****" (including the ones you had mods delete).

Very curious to hear your answer on this one.

Thanks!
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09-22-2015 , 04:49 AM
This is a review from the user "hamsterduck" or @vars on BPC , playing 6max.
Both $steezy and Hansthegreat have cracked 30k profits/month in 2015.

My prediction is that he will have a 50k month by the end of this year. (sadly i will not earn anything on that, since he'll have finished CFP by then...sigh. I will accept donations tho LOL)

The interview is done by the one and only $steezy




@Jaydul: It's getting old. Yawn.
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09-22-2015 , 06:21 PM
Great interview, just out of interest, what was the first course he bought?
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09-22-2015 , 07:40 PM
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@Jaydul: It's getting old..yawn
Yes I can see how you would not want to answer my question. But frankly, I take offense and am not satisfied with a "Yawn" answer. In fact, it seems a bit childish to me. A little girl or boy might do the same thing as you did (to put it politely).

"haters gonna hate" "Yawn" "LOL, I'm a little princess" are not appropriate or professional responses to civil questions.

If you don't want to answer questions, just say that you aren't 100% honest with people all the time, and get it over with. If you can just say "I don't ever bull**** people, period, end of story"...... Are you scared that people may not believe you?

Regarding your communication to people who have healthy skepticism..... as you so eloquently put it: "its getting old...... yawn"

I'm not the only person who's asked you questions to which you've given "less than adult" answers to. So yes, it is getting old.
Thanks for the intial response. I hope that my response is respectful enough to "earn" a respectful answer from you.

I truly am looking forward to a more appropriate response when you are in a more mature mood, perhaps.

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09-22-2015 , 08:03 PM
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Great interview, just out of interest, what was the first course he bought?
Back then it was DoubleYour6maxWinrate (which is no longer for sale) and/or HU Mastermind since those were really the only main courses being sold.

The one thing he did not mention is that he's always more than well prepared for coaching and if he is given a homework i can bet my life savings that it will be done.

As he said, he followed advice despite thinking it might not be good/ making little sense. Other people don't even follow advice that they KNOW is good for them!!!

I think this is one of the biggest challenge of coaches to make a student do things that the student doesn't understand/want to do. If the student understood why it's needed, then he would not need the task in the first place.
It's the chicken-egg problem in coaching.
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09-22-2015 , 09:47 PM
Do most of the CFP members move to HU? it seems that a lot of them either prefer to play HU or transition there during the CFP programme.
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09-23-2015 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JayDulce
Yes I can see how you would not want to answer my question. But frankly, I take offense and am not satisfied with a "Yawn" answer. In fact, it seems a bit childish to me. A little girl or boy might do the same thing as you did (to put it politely).

"haters gonna hate" "Yawn" "LOL, I'm a little princess" are not appropriate or professional responses to civil questions.

If you don't want to answer questions, just say that you aren't 100% honest with people all the time, and get it over with. If you can just say "I don't ever bull**** people, period, end of story"...... Are you scared that people may not believe you?

Regarding your communication to people who have healthy skepticism..... as you so eloquently put it: "its getting old...... yawn"

I'm not the only person who's asked you questions to which you've given "less than adult" answers to. So yes, it is getting old.
Thanks for the intial response. I hope that my response is respectful enough to "earn" a respectful answer from you.

I truly am looking forward to a more appropriate response when you are in a more mature mood, perhaps.
I'm pretty sure that after the last round of "questioning" in this thread, Gordon mentioned they posted some FAQs on BPC that may have the answers you are looking for. If that is what you are really looking for.
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09-23-2015 , 02:56 AM
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Do most of the CFP members move to HU? it seems that a lot of them either prefer to play HU or transition there during the CFP programme.
The majority is 6max and this number will be even going up even further since the barrier of entry to play 6max is like nothing (in order to play NL2).

Some people always wanted to play HU, but had to start with 6max due to bankroll requirements. Once they reached them they could switch. Generally we don't encourage switching, but in some individual situations in can make a lot of sense.
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09-23-2015 , 03:54 AM
Here is the video of the ceremony in Dubrovnik where the finishers from the first CFP generation get honored. The video (light/audio) is not BPC quality, but we self recorded and the guys did quite a good job (first time!!!). Next years event will be MASSIVE and then we're gonna have big camera teams and media outlets who can fight to interview the next stars. Enjoy and get inspired.



Quite an international group (Poland, Croatia, Russia, Slovenia, USA and Germany)

If you see ads, it's not from us but bc of copyrights from the last soundtrack. ******** ridic, so we might change the soundtrack at the end.
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09-23-2015 , 08:31 AM
Good stuff! Inspiring for sure.

I wonder what the girlfriends are thinking when you say "He made 8k € in one day" or "10k per month"
A lot of money for the regular working folks
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09-23-2015 , 01:20 PM
Are there now any graphs from omaha? How is this group doing?
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09-23-2015 , 02:04 PM
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Are there now any graphs from omaha? How is this group doing?
PLO HU or 6max? We offer both.

Both are completely new programs, not even a month old iirc. Give this a bit of time before you can see any meaningful graphs.

However, there are graphs from the student's of the coaches in the past. One was the PTR player of the year, the other one is also a longterm coach whose students had great results.

In other words, you should join while you get access to these programs for cheap. As soon as they rock out good graphs, the price goes up (sorry, they're not doing this only for )
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09-23-2015 , 02:18 PM
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Good stuff! Inspiring for sure.

I wonder what the girlfriends are thinking when you say "He made 8k € in one day" or "10k per month"
A lot of money for the regular working folks
Well, they all felt pretty great until ImaChampion talked about having made 22k in one day.

It's always that one a$$hole who ruins the party for the rest.

Seriously tho, the guys have some incredibly supportive partners.
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09-25-2015 , 06:36 AM
Hey there Gordon, Just want to say your course looks great and I love your attitude regarding success.

I have a quick question though, throughout the course I'm assuming the majority of your roll will need to stay online so as to climb stakes faster. That being said are new students expected to have a years (or more) worth of life expenses saved prior to beginning the course? As its pretty clear grinding 60+ hour weeks plus working full time would be tough to say the least.
Or are we regularly cashing out and then only challenging higher stakes once we are confident and properly rolled?
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09-25-2015 , 02:53 PM
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Hey there Gordon, Just want to say your course looks great and I love your attitude regarding success.

I have a quick question though, throughout the course I'm assuming the majority of your roll will need to stay online so as to climb stakes faster. That being said are new students expected to have a years (or more) worth of life expenses saved prior to beginning the course? As its pretty clear grinding 60+ hour weeks plus working full time would be tough to say the least.
Or are we regularly cashing out and then only challenging higher stakes once we are confident and properly rolled?
Thx, happy to hear that you like our material.

You have a good question.


SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION:
Our systems are built step-by-step. This means, you have to complete Step1 in order to get to Step2. Of course playing more means faster progress. At the end of the day it is up to you and your life circumstances to decide how fast you want it.

Detailed:
In a perfect world you would have life savings for 6 months. However, the world is not perfect and if you wait until it is perfect, you will become old and will rot in a basement, because instead of GOING FOR IT you will always wait for the "perfect spot".

The initial version of CFP was very strict and tough. Watch the ceremony. The first guy to get in (imachampion) needed to play 400k hands on baby stakes because he was close to broke. Oh, that was in one month btw! His eyes bleeded.
We had no cash outs, 60+hours per week minimum. In return i also never took out money until they were super comfortable with a BR. One guy got coaching for over a year without me asking for one cent.

Losing my spoiler virginity: (explanations,,,more detail)
Spoiler:
Why was i so tough? Well, the CFP success stories are miracle stories. But don't fool yourself. You don't earn 500/month and then earn 10k/month 6months later without some SERIOUS dedication (that's what you do) and good material + coaching (that's what we provide).

When i started CFP, it was actually just a time-filler and to prove some dumba$$es wrong. As some of you know, i stopped playing full time to move to the next level in my life and build big businesses. But i realized there was so much free time, i might as well do something with it.
I had no idea that there were so many dedicated poker players out there who wanted to achieve something great in their life. One thing came to the other and now we're here! We got a big team and growing at a rapid rate.



OK. Now we have grown so big. Everything is even more systemized than before. This means that we can accept everybody into CFP.
You can play as many hours as you want. You decide how fast you succeed.

About Bankroll:

SKILL is a lot more important than bankroll That's why staking somebody in cash games is close to the dumbest thing you can do - hence we don't do it!!!
(very few exceptions, like always...)
If you got the skill, the bankroll will follow very quickly. So how many months of life-savings should you have?
I can't answer that for anybody. What i can say is that you should not pass an opportunity because you have too much fear.

Whenever a student cries like a little C4nt, i tell them NONE OF YOUR DECISIONS ARE LIKE THIS:
Sophie's Choice Urban Dictionary

So stop worrying about all those things that nobody cares about when you're 80.

You live once. Be smart. I'm not saying throw your job away. But even if it sounds "cheezy", you should follow your heart.
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09-26-2015 , 03:13 PM
So now micro NL and PLO 6 max open for people with say 30hrs per week with a small BR and the security deposit?

And what if some months they can do more hours - for example uni is closed for half the year?

Do PLO players get copies of the PLO course under CFP?

many thanks.
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