The automation tool is great but I have other charts that are working great for at the level I am playing. I wish you guys were always putting new stuff about spins and go's all the time, I would bought a subscription everytime for sure.

Cheers and thank you.

I would prop bet anyone that Gordon could crush cash games online. My friend asked me best site to learn from I said bpc. He was shocked cause he knows I am a crusher. This site teaches you to max your ev against 95% of the player pool that is basically average to weak players. Now you wont be better then the top 5% of players, but you will make more money then they do against the weaker player in cash games. Unless you want to pay big money to a end boss to beat the top 5% of players you can learn what he teaches and beat the rest of the field out of a lot of money. My friend has seen my sessions and I dominate the tables no matter what limit it is. And its basically what Gordon teaches. I have looked at all the sites teaching and tools and he teaches the best to beat the average to weaker players. And that is all poker is about is making the most money not being the best player in the world. I have played against some of his best students and trust me you wont have fun playing against them. Why don't you challenge some of his students heads up to see if it is a scam or not? That is how you prove it you play them. I have challenged a lot of these coaches on here and they put their tail between their legs cause they know better. I know a lot of them are fake losing players. But I wont say their names. Gordons teaching is for real. If you don't apply what he is teaching properly that is not his fault.

How come there are no mtt success stories?

Can anyone explain me the difference between the german and english 6-max bootcamp pls, the german is 300 bucks cheaper...is there missing some content?

Thy Martin

Is hourly coaching still available and what is the rate?

There are success stories, but definitely not in the 100k made in 9months region. It was mostly recreational players who made some extra money, but not life changing. Our (former) coach Bencb moved on to build and operate his own site. Congrats to him on doing well in his business and continued success as a player himself.

We then stopped accepting new students to the MTT program.

The English is original, the German "only" translated, so we lowered the price for that reason.

We don't do hourly coaching.

Are you still offering the CFP program? I see that the links don't work. If not, maybe delete the post.

Hi,

No, we don't do CFP programs anymore at this moment. Thanks for the heads-up about the links.

This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to upgrade your poker game. The world is in a financial crisis. People are broke. You read about how crisis times are the best times. Now is your chance to take action. If you don’t take advantage of this, you will be looking back at this offer like the guy who didn’t buy bitcoin for 10cents in 2011. Take it before it’s gone.

https://www.bestpokercoaching.com/bpc-super-bundle/

If the courses are so valuable, why is BPC offering them all together so cheap?

We expect/hope to sell more and make it up in volume.

It's a great deal, but not a gift or charity. We clearly do this because we expect it to be win-win for a wider audience.

Are you guys not doing the CFP anymore?

When poking around your site I couldn't find the info about it.

We don't offer it anymore.

i was looking forward to read all the blogs with the success stories crushing 2/5 in your forum, where i can find it?

We discontinued the forum roughly 3 years ago i believe. Telegram, Discord, private groups is where the convos went. Same reason 2p2 is not a place to discuss hands anymore. And ofc you can search on 2p2 as well.

https://www.bestpokercoaching.com/hall-of-fame/ is an excerpt.

You can try using internet archive tho.

On spin n go automation tool there shows you need to limp some hands on the button 3 way from 11 to 16bb effective stack. Maybe you know if this is mistake and it should be minraise or is it really how you need to play?

It is not a mistake. The charts are correct for the limits they were created. I would also recommend to expand beyond the tool and get one course to understand the game better.

We have a super promotion at the moment for everyone interested where you can get almost ALL courses that BPC created for a crazy discounted price. Spin & Go courses and Bootcamps included. See below:
https://www.bestpokercoaching.com/bpc-super-bundle/

Yeah, I bought it already and it's insane how much of videos for learning are there, like you probably would need atleast few months for only one section if you would watch them everyday non stop, you should be stupid to not use this promotion, because teachers are great and it would cost atleast 100x more if you would be taking some private coaching otherwere for such many hours.

Can I ask for details? Why not?

Short: If millions of players begged and put in hours, the program would still be up, obviously. We'd find a way.

Detail:

Making it work means absolute dedication from students and coaches. We were the only ones making it work at scale over many years, so we can always recommend our products with pride "knowing they work in the real world" , not only in a theoretical sense.

Having that said, without a # of dedicated players putting in crazy hours (that always supported the program for the Jack Smiths, who just wanted to learn a bit of poker) it doesn't make sense.

The type of young guy with hours and motivation today is more likely to venture into crypto or perhaps super small % into MTTs.

It is also harder to make 100k in 9months than 10 years ago.

In other words, the economy is slowly trending towards "GTO". By that i mean, when people said poker was dead 10yrs ago and some mid-iq guy just starts and makes 100k/year, you know something is "unbalanced". You can check this thread, all is time stamped.

A good measurement is to see if training sites/streamers/commentators/pundits who "suck" at poker make more money than amazing players. That means the "braindead easy money playing" is gone and it turns more towards a hobby sport with interested lovers of the game and a few professionals.

No sport in the world (that i know of) finances itself from players paying money to compete vs better players. Poker to some degree still does. Otherwise it's all indirect via fan-dom, generating media attention etc. I believe this is where poker has to be heading. Luckily there is always that illusion of skill / "luck factor" that simply doesn't exist in other sports.

I had a short discussion recently with a former student Bencb (who does very well as player/streamer and his own site), he does disagree with me on the topic and mentions how the # of live MTT players is increasing. He has more insight ofc into MTTs, but poker as of today is no longer a legitimate get-rich-quick-scheme, that it has always been. It was one of the "too good be true" that actually was true.

Hard work and dedication (and talent!) will still get you there. But that's not unique to poker. And you compete with 14yo's with unlimited time, who memorise "solver lines". The 40yo dad stands no chance.

Mid-IQs making big money is as impossible as it is at chess. All high earning poker players of the future will be brilliant minds. You can hardly say that about the past ("old live pros caugh caugh").


Or put another way, i can no longer say with a good conscience to "go and play poker" if a young ambitious guy asks how and where to build a financial foundation. Those times are over.

Again, this post would NEVER stop somebody like me from trying if he really wanted. And i hope it doesn't stop an ambitious reader. This is purely an objective statement. If you're born special, you know it and nothing will stop you.

- Gordon

I just rewatched the first episode of the 2015 Dubrovnik conference and thought I'd have a look at this thread. Poker is now a page to turn, it's a bit sad in the sense that it was one of the really unique options to have skyrocketing financial results coming directly from your skills, your ability to learn, finding the right resources, etc. (but also to fly high and then get broke fast for some, high risk/reward). Overall, it was a fascinating experience, opening doors for traveling and meeting (some) clever and ambitious men. All of this will be in my soul forever, as well as the experience with BPC.

@gordon : in the episode I just mentioned, you were speaking about the importance of not being in the spotlight, in front of the cameras, etc. I have no clue what you're up to now, but let me ask you a favor - if you were to teach/coach/discuss something in public or on the Internet again, please let us know here! You're the real deal. Greetings to all BPC members
Also you wrote bencb was a student, you meant coach?

Note: not sure if it has even been advertised here, but there is a 200€ bundle with all the courses from the site. I'll probably get it soon even though I'm not playing anymore, just because some of the courses I've seen in the past were really well done and some are still up-to-date (think HU mastermind). I'll very likely not use them, but symbolically it'd be nice for me to have the complete library that used to cost big money in the last years or was reserved for people being coached.

https://www.bestpokercoaching.com/bpc-super-bundle/

Happy to see that you had a great experience!

I did coach bencb (not in CFP) as well as many other very well known HS players from the era after i stopped playing. We did a bit of cash and i shared my way of thinking, which happily he still believes works in today's games. I've always been discreet, Ben back then was also not public about his real life identity. Before he started his own business, he did some coaching for BPC.

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About "not being in the spotlight": Well the world has changed and in my line of business it was very appreciated. Certain people don't like to be shown off on social media.

Having that said, with poker training or almost anything else, having a voice and many followers on different networks is worth a lot more. Hindsight etc, but i certainly consider it an overall mistake by me, especially since it would have been so ez, me not being camera shy, my life, girls blabla etc all being very presentable. Also, there are no "secrets" anymore. World is super transparent for better or worse.

I am rereading this thread and i saw this for the second time. This is a very strong statement for a cfp with the majority students playing 50nl or bellow. There are exception but few. Gordon with your hand on your heart i would like to answer my two questions if you can. In a world focussing in gto mostly, how high you think someone can be a winner above 3bb/100 without rakeback using your two courses

1) 6 max masterclass
2) HU masterclass

If he does everything you suggest in your courses without any additional coaching. Do you think the can win 3bb/100 in non app games without rakeback?