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Originally Posted by StarGrinder
It may have been implied, but Makeboifin didn't directly call BPC scammers.
He said if a company takes on 100 students and only 5 are successful, they will market the **** out of them. Call it what you want but that's not a scam. No one is putting a gun to people's heads and forcing them to signup to their coaching programs. Maybe some disagree with their business practices and marketing initiatives but that doesn't make it a scam. Let's smarten up here guys.
Don't you think if BPC (or anyone else for that matter) took on less students they'd have a higher success rate? If they only took on 10 students per year with a very rigorous interview process with background checks and everything else, would the success rate not go through the roof?
Perhaps not a scam outright, but it's questionable marketing and ethics imo. I mean if you don't have good ethics, then why would you want to continue with the company, what else is hiding within that monster?
Also you prove the point that Gordon is trying to make, that if you sign up to his coaching that you too will become a winner, yes afterwards it's well you have to put in the work etc etc. But if that work entails 200-300 hours a month and then still you are not certain to make it, well it's kind of scummy if you ask me. He's not really upfront with all the work that goes into this. Also you most likely just won't have what it takes to become successful at poker, period.
He is clearly taking advantage of inexperienced young people that have a dream to become a poker pro. He knows most won't make it, but he does not advertise it that way does he, he's all for glamming it up and trying to get you to believe the story. Also pointing out that many are professors but can't make big money, but he has the secret cure for that, then trying to bait you in with any joe public can make it happen to, I got that secret sauce for you.
Meanwhile just think for a second will you, if professors can't make a killing in this game, then how good have you got to be to be able to make money, you have to be better then those professors, so logically if you aint at a professors level then you shouldn't even be joining.
Put another way if the people that finish the program successfully had not of signed up, had they been successful anyways. And, how many people that have signed up, have become successful that wouldn't have without signing up.
My guess is that most of the people that signed up that completed would of been successful anyway and that only a handful of the unsuccessful people actually become successful, if that makes sense.
Sure with selective picking you can cherry pick the best students and have high success rate but that's not how to make money lol.
Isn't this all about making money, so naturally the more sign-ups the better, he's not stupid to disclose the actual numbers, otherwise he would be categorized with the same coaches he pisses on, on this site.
He knows that 9 out 10 players lose money at poker, and he also knows that of his students 9 out 10 fail, unless he is willing to share empirical evidence to suggest that these numbers are wrong, I will stand by this.
I'm saying this: 9 out 10 players lose money at poker, his success rate is roughly 1 in 10 players. Unless his coaching makes this number to 2 or 3 out 10, then I can only conclude that his coaching does not really work.
What it might do is work for those 1 in 10 players that would be successful anyways, it might speed up the process to becomes a winning player, but I don't think it will change the actual ratio of winning players to losing players.
Yes the frame work and structure might be there but that does not mean it works for the 9 other players that need it to work.
Last edited by White_Gatsby; 10-19-2018 at 01:07 AM.