[x] Online Poker is Dead - Page 3 - Poker News

Before a surge of people reply "lol you suck at poker" etc I want to say lately I have been plugging a lot of regs at ftp into tableratings.com which is an online datamining site and am increasingly surprised by the extent to which the player pool of regs are mostly breakeven or e.g. -0.5ptt losing players.

Of course there are exceptions and I expect a lot of people will reply "lol ****** what about leatherass/20buckspin/nanonoko" etc but in truth it seems like these people truly are part of an elite, the top 0.01%... For the rest of the regs, it seems attaining a good winrate at mid stakes and higher (even above 2ptbb) over a large sample these days is getting really tough.

This is based on FTP/Pokerstars, maybe on euro sites where games are softer(?) this isn't quite the case.

Anyway...

01-05-2009 , 01:31 PM

#53

JJS6866

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 396

lol u suck at poker

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01-05-2009 , 01:33 PM

#54

RIVERED4MYBANKROLL

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 364

yup got the most predictable reply outta the way...

01-05-2009 , 01:34 PM

#55

cool personified

banned

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 239

is there ever not a day when i open up this piece and find this post??

01-05-2009 , 01:35 PM

#56

Stephen74

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 322

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIVERED4MYBANKROLL

What stakes are you playing? Do you play stt's? I've been running pretty flat profit-wise lately, but I play low enough stakes that everyone pretty much sucks.

Switch to Bodog. Sports gamblers make bad poker players.

01-05-2009 , 01:38 PM

#57

YouCheckRaise

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,445

Move up to where

Spoiler:

01-06-2009 , 06:30 PM

#58

Lego05

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 24,897

You know you can just put the % into pokerstove yourself and it'll show you the hand range. So basically pokerstove already does what this new HUD does.

01-06-2009 , 06:37 PM

#59

thoth_hermes

adept

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 803

Quote:

Originally Posted by TenJackOfClubs

He said he got the program from a friend of his at school OVER THE SUMMER.

At first I didn't think this new program was a big deal, but knowing that he got it over the summer is definitely a game changer. I guess online poker might be dead after all.

01-06-2009 , 06:41 PM

#60

jogden139

banned

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,995

[X] as soon as a donk get's his hands on a program like this he thinks he's a winning player ad because of this false interpretation of ones self he ends up losing more money.

01-06-2009 , 06:55 PM

#61

jogden139

banned

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,995

somebody post tin foil hats pic please

01-07-2009 , 12:05 AM

#62

ashesofheroes

old hand

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01-07-2009 , 12:16 AM

#63

LJ023

banned

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 93

Online poker is far from dead because of some stupid program that gives fake b/s like this one..

01-07-2009 , 12:53 AM

#64

TheJacob

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,862

OP if you took more than four seconds to think about this you would realize that this already exist:

This is what all HUDs do. Its just usually the handranges are presented as statistics and not actual hands.
I'm guessing the original stats are probably far more useful than the hand ranges the program(if it exists) spits out to anyone who knows how to use the stats.

[X] Checkboxes killed online poker.

01-07-2009 , 07:03 AM

#65

worpler

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,817

01-07-2009 , 07:07 AM

#66

worpler

old hand

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01-09-2009 , 10:20 AM

#67

porquinho

adept

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 709

I don't think so... People need to know how to use the stats. I don't think a computer program can beat a human poker player. Or, maybe, IBM's Deep Blue...

08-03-2009 , 05:15 AM

#68

solsek

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,004

Fold AA UTG but open 72o..the program will explode.

08-03-2009 , 07:22 AM

#69

aura

Carpal \'Tunnel

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08-03-2009 , 07:29 AM

#70

Ruebs

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,837

YOu don't need a 'unique program' to do that. Most short stackers do exactly this with PT and pokerstove...

In addition it still doesn't mean people successfully apply this info to win online.

08-03-2009 , 09:11 AM

#71

two2brains

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,636

Bring your fancy program to my PLO 6 max table please.

08-03-2009 , 09:41 AM

#72

tbhouston

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,854

Quote:

Originally Posted by TenJackOfClubs

I just witnessed a friend of mine 8 tabling 1/2 on stars using a new HUD. It uses your PT stats to create an accurate range for your opponent. It gives you a text output line that you can copy paste into pokerstove.

What this means is that any monkey could play "text book" poker if he is able to learn preflop strat and copy paste.

He said he got the program from a friend of his at school OVER THE SUMMER.

I will not give you his screenname, or the name of the program, but I have searched online and I cannot find it (which is good). As far as I know it is a one of a kind program.

I will never play a hand of poker online ever again.

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