That tweet basically says he got paid $1,75M that could have gone to charity. Weird flex, but ok.

I would bet he would not even be a winning player online at $xxnl (insert whatever level you play). If, of course, he would ever drop down to that level.

Phil is a very confused fish. He's basically had a 0.01% heater for his entire career and is not capable of understanding how that's possible because he's never done any variance calculations.

There's also the whole famous factor which results in many recs (and some pros) being intimidated, spewing or over folding vs him. The same is true for a handful of the most successful online mtt players, people see their screen name and bluff way less or try too hard to own them. C. darwin2 is probably one of the best mtt players of all time, but the fear (fame?) factor that he carries definitely gives him an roi boost too. Phil just happens to be the live fish version of the beneficiary of that factor. Phil is the perfect storm of positive variance and other factors that have given him success that aren't anything to do with his actual poker skill.

I don't expect it to last for much longer.

So only a total of 30+ years then?

It’s what the market dictates. What’s your problem guy ?

lol. well done.

Care to estimate for us how many donkaments that could have been? Must be like a ridiculously big sample right?

The larger the sample, the more reliable the results.

Tournament poker is about results. There is no other measure. It is what it is.

My point is that even if he plays a ton of (documented) live donkaments each year the sample is still laughable. Tons of other fish have run super hot online over those samples.

He was biggest name in poker . He is old do you expect him keep up with poker just so fan boys can watch him.

He made his money entertaining and know he just causally plays for the whatever’s.

How has every post ripped on op for being a pussy as Phil would say? Maybe never heard say that but maybe he does.

I dunno. Doesn’t really matter. It’s his one sample size, one of the biggest, and he’s done pretty well with it.

Either way the statement that “I don’t expect it to last for much longer” is silly. Because either it will have only lasted for three decades of his prime, or because the actual results are meaningless compared to the opinion of a guy who watched him play some HSP back in the day, so why even check results.

Honestly I don't have a problem with it. I'm just wasn't if that was for real or if someone was trolling.

If Phil can charge 1.9 mu, good for him. I just won't be buying any action lol.

I think the most amazing thing in the career of Hellmuth was he was the very face of Ultimate Bet poker, and while Super User Russ Hamilton was run out of poker and even had his banner removed at WSOP, Phil Hellmuth, the chief spokesman for Ultimate Bet, just skated away without a scratch. Talk about dodging bullets, baby.

That many wins against similar fields? Hmmm...I'm not so sure about that.

This, I'm sure about. Not that Hellmuth should have anywhere near the heat Hamilton should, but it is pretty surprising how little heat he seems to take over it. Hell, it doesn't seem like even the OP's aware of it, and he's the one who started a thread to hate on Hellmuth.

Why should Helmuth get any heat at all if his employer ****ed up and some dude ravished people with a super user account?
Afaik the story, helmuth was neither involved in the fraud nor did he know of it.

Confirmed. You don't know much.

Hellmuth's statement through his agent, Brian Balsbaugh, to Kevin Mathers:

"At the time, I was led to believe that if I left UB right away the business would be impacted and then less likely to pay it’s obligations to the victims. As such, I made the decision to believe the leaders of UB and stayed on in the hopes that they would make right to anyone cheated."

Not to mention, not wanting to hurt the value of his own investment in UB.

In that case it sure is strange noone threw shade at him

Edit: I didn't know about that because I think the "news articles" I read about that incident never cared to mention this. But maybe I forgot because this was ages ago.

With all due respect, I never wrote i hate him...
I wrote I "used to like him", but that certainly doesn't mean I hate him..
In fact I still love watching him play, not enough to buy piece of him, but still...
That is why I get pissed when I hope to see him on tv, but he chooses to be late...As rec I think he does a lot of good things to promote poker...I get it, while doing that he also promotes himself, but that is the part of the game, isn't it ? Game of life, I mean...
So, my op was more about disappointment than hate...

P.S. I am aware about UB scandal...
P.S.2 Apologies for my english...

What's wrong with Hellmuth?

Whatever it is, it's simply the side effects of the "White Magic."