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11-18-2021 , 10:11 AM

#51

Pokerbros_Player

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Join Date: Aug 2021 Posts: 274

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Originally Posted by GazzyB123

This level of hyperbole has become the norm for online discussion, and it's so tiring.

Nobody is "freaking out", 3 or 4 people have mentioned it.

This level of hyperbole has become the norm for online discussion, and it's so wrong.

Nobody is "tired", 1-2 people were yawning a little bit

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11-18-2021 , 10:13 AM

#52

Pokerbros_Player

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Join Date: Aug 2021 Posts: 274

PS: people are suggesting doing park+ride from somewhere ... but yeah, it has been barely mentioned .. ;-))))

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11-18-2021 , 11:06 AM

#53

3for3poker

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,505

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Originally Posted by Pokerbros_Player

PS: people are suggesting doing park+ride from somewhere ... but yeah, it has been barely mentioned .. ;-))))

How well will that work when your event ends at 2AM? You then have to wait to get on a bus?

I get that the WSOP experience may well be better for tourists. I can assure you that for locals, none of the things that have been mentioned will make it 'better'.

I am optimistic that the change in venue will only add 30 minutes to my total commute. I suspect it will be worse.

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11-18-2021 , 11:16 AM

#54

PTLou

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Originally Posted by 3for3poker

I get that the WSOP experience may well be better for tourists. I can assure you that for locals, none of the things that have been mentioned will make it 'better'.

well you could just get a room and stay on the strip like all us tourists do. Its fun. They have room service and people handing out pictures of very pretty girls on the street. FOR FREE. wtf... only in Vegas

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11-18-2021 , 11:19 AM

#55

3for3poker

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I think you've made my point

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11-18-2021 , 11:26 AM

#56

Wildspoke

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I had zero energy experience at the RIO this year. The place was lifeless.

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11-18-2021 , 11:46 AM

#57

madlex

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Originally Posted by 3for3poker

I get that the WSOP experience may well be better for tourists. I can assure you that for locals, none of the things that have been mentioned will make it 'better'.

I am optimistic that the change in venue will only add 30 minutes to my total commute. I suspect it will be worse.

Do you think the WSOP cares about locals who focus on getting in and out of the location as easy as possible?

Sounds like the poker equivalent of somebody playing penny slots without doing any of the food/entertainment stuff that are the cash cows these days.

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11-18-2021 , 11:51 AM

#58

3for3poker

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No, I do not think the WSOP cares about locals, and that is fine. Just countering an earlier post which stated the B/P will be thousands of percent better.

While it may well be better for the rest of the world, the locals population will not think it is.

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11-18-2021 , 01:18 PM

#59

madlex

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Originally Posted by 3for3poker

Fair enough. Bally's will most likely be a huge improvement for tourists but probably worse in some areas for locals.

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11-18-2021 , 01:26 PM

#60

TheFly

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Originally Posted by 3for3poker

I am optimistic that the change in venue will only add 30 minutes to my total commute. I suspect it will be worse.

30 minutes longer Rio vs Ballys?

Do you drive down Las Vegas Blvd to get to any Strip Casino or something? Most locals I know are aware of the "back roads" that significantly cut the travel time.

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11-18-2021 , 02:10 PM

#61

3for3poker

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Originally Posted by TheFly

30 minutes longer Rio vs Ballys?

Do you drive down Las Vegas Blvd to get to any Strip Casino or something? Most locals I know are aware of the "back roads" that significantly cut the travel time.

1. That number was round trip.
2. That number includes time from car to venue.
3. Yes, I do know about back roads, and I won't be driving 'down the strip'

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11-18-2021 , 02:19 PM

#62

PeteBlow

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So you'd prefer 30 minutes to more rec players?

Remember, most of those recs who come to Vegas for the WSOP stay on the strip and also spent 30 minutes getting to and from the Rio each day.
But hey, you DGAF about anyone other than yourself.

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11-18-2021 , 03:02 PM

#63

TheFly

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So you’re willing to go play poker tournaments for 12 hours/day but the chance of, maybe, adding 15 minutes to the front and back end of your day is enough to say f**k it, I’m out. Lol!

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11-18-2021 , 03:31 PM

#64

Bitter13

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If you live west of The Strip, you're adding 8 minutes to your commute (thanks, google maps!) But on the other hand, if you live east of The Strip, you might be saving the same amount. Even Steven.

Having the WSOP on the strip is so +EV for people from out of town and for Caesars, that it makes a 15 (or 30 even) additional commute for some a drop in the bucket. Once again, how many trips do guests at the rio have to take to the strip to escape that shitbox? Once again, even steven.

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11-18-2021 , 04:06 PM

#65

3for3poker

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You guys may be right. Yes, I have acknowledged that while this is worse for me, it might be better for others. I hope you are right; I hope attendance soars, more tourists come, and parking is somehow much less of a hassle than I anticipate it to be.

See you in 2022.

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11-18-2021 , 04:58 PM

#66

the pleasure

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Originally Posted by PTLou

I dont believe this is true. Strip has 60,000 hotel rooms. Summer is dead time. There will plenty of rooms and WAY more selection and variety and price points and bathrooms and food and locks on doors that work.

$200 at excal. I dont think so. more like $20

I hope you are right that it wont bump but I just dont see how this is so. but its not like I know what im talking about. I do think we will see a price increase tho, nobody will stay in the stratosphere or off strip if its in ballys.

I actually thought vegas is most alive when the wsop is in town? thinking that and any other summer convention going on

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Originally Posted by Gzesh

I'd rather drink muddy water and sleep in a hollow log than stay at Excalibur. .....

never stayed but I do know excal and luxor are the "cheaper" places it seems

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11-18-2021 , 06:53 PM

#67

wsopfinaltable

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Originally Posted by 3for3poker

I get that the WSOP experience may well be better for tourists. I can assure you that for locals, none of the things that have been mentioned will make it 'better'.

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Originally Posted by 3for3poker

While it may well be better for the rest of the world, the locals population will not think it is.

I am a local and I 100% disagree with you.

You should stop assuming other locals will share your opinion.

This venue change will indeed make the wsop better and parking will not be an issue.

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11-18-2021 , 07:21 PM

#68

Dream Crusher

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Rio
Meeting Space: 160k sq ft
Largest Room: 55k sq ft
Guest Rooms: 2,522

Bally's
Meeting Space: 175k sq ft
Largest Room: 40k sq ft
Guest Rooms: 2,814

Paris
Meeting Space: 140k sq ft
Largest Room: 85k sq ft
Guest Rooms: 2,916

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11-18-2021 , 07:31 PM

#69

Dream Crusher

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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted

I'll miss the mile walk from the Rio casino to the tournament area. It kept me in shape.

I felt a little sorry though for the fat out of shape players.

You can stay at Bellagio or hell stay at the Wynn.

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Originally Posted by 3for3poker

Adding an extra hour for the commute back and forth will definitely limit my play; I will just play at more convenient spots, except for a relatively few chosen events.

My hope is that they tear down the Rio, put a nice, new casino there, and bring back the WSOP to its best physical location in Las Vegas. Maybe by 2025 that will all come to pass...

Or better yet, they could just move the WSOP out of Vegas altogether and you can stay in a hotel room like everyone else.

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11-18-2021 , 07:35 PM

#70

Gzesh

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Originally Posted by PTLou

Only the pictures are free, the girls cost something.

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11-18-2021 , 08:01 PM

#71

PTLou

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,516

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Originally Posted by Gzesh

Only the pictures are free, the girls cost something.

why on earth would you pay for the girls when they give you the pics for free. people are so stupid .

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11-18-2021 , 08:26 PM

#72

3for3poker

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Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,505

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Originally Posted by wsopfinaltable

I am a local and I 100% disagree with you.

You should stop assuming other locals will share your opinion.

This venue change will indeed make the wsop better and parking will not be an issue.

I hope you are right. Having been to conventions at Bally’s the parking is not as easy as the Rio. Unless they have somehow improved it, I am 100 percent sure I am correct in this regard.

I didn’t mean to speak for all locals. Sorry, if I was misunderstood in that regard.

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11-18-2021 , 08:36 PM

#73

Dr. Meh

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Originally Posted by the pleasure

I do think we will see a price increase tho, nobody will stay in the stratosphere or off strip if its in ballys.

I disagree with this. While I agree there will be a bump in price, Stratosphere will still have plenty of people on a budget staying there.

Personally, I get free rooms at Red Rock and love it there so I’ll continue to stay off strip where I can relax in a very nice hotel away from the hustle and bustle. Alright, maybe a little hustle and slight bustle but not too hustley or bustley.

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11-19-2021 , 08:33 AM

#74

madlex

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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh

I disagree with this. While I agree there will be a bump in price, Stratosphere will still have plenty of people on a budget staying there.

People stay at the Stratosphere for the WSOP at the RIO, I don't see a reason why they can't stay at the Stratosphere for the WSOP at Bally's.

I'd like to see data on who attends Raiders home games. My best guess is that from at least half the NFL markets the number of people traveling to LV for a game is higher than the number of visitors for the WSOP on any given day. I have a hard time seeing hotel room rates at any Strip property outside of Bally's and Paris skyrocket because the WSOP is at Bally's now.

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11-19-2021 , 02:00 PM

#75

Online Veteran

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,609

This is much better for a casual/recreational player like me (who is flying in from out of town). When I take a solo trip to Vegas, I do not rent a car.

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