07-13-2009 , 10:02 AM
was there a problem?

making it winner-take-all will never happen.
07-13-2009 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by AsRequested
was there a problem?

making it winner-take-all will never happen.
unless they only told everyone once they had all registered?
07-13-2009 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JonReremy
imagine if they made the main event winner take all just for one year??
first prize would be like \$100 million and the FT would have a HUUUGGEEEE tv rating and there wud be a poker boom 10x bigger than the moneymaker boom... problem solved
Do Harrah's allow final table deals? They could still do this...
07-13-2009 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JonReremy
imagine if they made the main event winner take all just for one year??
first prize would be like \$100 million and the FT would have a HUUUGGEEEE tv rating and there wud be a poker boom 10x bigger than the moneymaker boom... problem solved
[ ] First prize would be like \$100 million
[ ] First prize would be like \$61 million
[x] First prize would be like \$10 million
07-13-2009 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JonReremy
honestly that is a +EV bet for you, theres 185 players left so only 5% of players left will make the FT
okay my math is not great but i'll attempt and someone can correct me if i'm wrong.

so if 5 percent of players are left that will make the FT, that means, if everyone had equal skill and equal stacks, each player would have a 5 percent chance of FT it.

ivey and elky are 2 players, so you took 10 percent (5+5).

so right now, it's 90/10 against you.

that means you would need ivey and elky to be 5x better than the average player with the average stack to make your bet good?

it's up to you to determine if you think their skill plus their larger than average stack size is worth more than 5x.

at first i thought you made a bad bet, but thinking it through, it's reasonable.

i made a 1:1 bet that the current chip leader will NOT make the final table.
07-13-2009 , 10:26 AM
GO IVEY!

That is all.

GP
07-13-2009 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve_Holt!
please god, don't let Joe Sebok win this.
This is the dumbest post ever. Sebok would be a great champion. He is very media savvy, he is young, his father is Greenstien, and he knows every pro. He would be great on talk shows and the promo circuit.

In terms of helping poker grow, Sebok would be a much better winner than Ivey, for example.
07-13-2009 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
This is the dumbest post ever. Sebok would be a great champion. He is very media savvy, he is young, his father is Greenstien, and he knows every pro. He would be great on talk shows and the promo circuit.

In terms of helping poker grow, Sebok would be a much better winner than Ivey, for example.
A tad harsh. Joe Sebok comes across well.
07-13-2009 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
This is the dumbest post ever. Sebok would be a great champion. He is very media savvy, he is young, his father is Greenstien, and he knows every pro. He would be great on talk shows and the promo circuit.

In terms of helping poker grow, Sebok would be a much better winner than Ivey, for example.
He doesn't like us though! So we can't support him!
07-13-2009 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by joethepro
okay my math is not great but i'll attempt and someone can correct me if i'm wrong.

so if 5 percent of players are left that will make the FT, that means, if everyone had equal skill and equal stacks, each player would have a 5 percent chance of FT it.

ivey and elky are 2 players, so you took 10 percent (5+5).

so right now, it's 90/10 against you.

that means you would need ivey and elky to be 5x better than the average player with the average stack to make your bet good?

it's up to you to determine if you think their skill plus their larger than average stack size is worth more than 5x.

at first i thought you made a bad bet, but thinking it through, it's reasonable.

i made a 1:1 bet that the current chip leader will NOT make the final table.

Your reading comprehension is flawed too, his bet is the other way around.

Have a nice day!.
07-13-2009 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
I have a 1:1 bet with a friend that neither ElkY or Ivey will make the FT. Tell me how dumb I am please.
Your friend is stupid should be like 7-1 odds i would assume or ever more.
Both these players are super aggressive and with 185 players left you are huge fav win this bet. But I really hope Ivey will do it and iam sure we all do.
07-13-2009 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Lohoo
payout structure is quite ridiculous agreed
why is it ridiculous? it's skewed to one side b/c they want to advertise the multi-digit winnings of the top finishers. it's a heavily broadcasted event and a top heavy structure makes the most marketing sense.

you just have to adjust your playing style to fit this structure. hardly ridiculous.
07-13-2009 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve_Holt!
please god, don't let Noah Boeken, Bertrand Grospellier or an other Eurodonk win this.
FYP.
07-13-2009 , 11:31 AM
Reguarding the turning away of hundreds of players: Casinos that turn away gamblers, who have money in hand, are run by idiots. The Dumb clerks who made this decision should be fired; WSOP commissioner, tournament director, etc...
07-13-2009 , 11:34 AM
Dennis 'Danger Cards' Phillips ONE TIME !!1!!11
07-13-2009 , 11:37 AM
trex ftw
07-13-2009 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by joethepro
why is it ridiculous? it's skewed to one side b/c they want to advertise the multi-digit winnings of the top finishers. it's a heavily broadcasted event and a top heavy structure makes the most marketing sense.

you just have to adjust your playing style to fit this structure. hardly ridiculous.
Thats my point, its too skewed. Its better for TV? meh maybe a bit, but Im talking about fairness, not about TV advertisement.
07-13-2009 , 11:40 AM
Not enough love for Eastgate at the moment. A brilliant attempt at getting his title back, it has to be said.
07-13-2009 , 11:47 AM
I love Eastgate, I wanna marry him, I wanna raise his children

Enough love?

07-13-2009 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lohoo
Thats my point, its too skewed. Its better for TV? meh maybe a bit, but Im talking about fairness, not about TV advertisement.
right. so those winner take all tournaments are "unfair" (dishonest, biased, unjust) as well as the double or nothing SNGs b/c of their level of skewing.

you were doing better with the ridiculous argument.

(do you see how trolling, assholishness works? many ppl can do it, like yourself).
07-13-2009 , 12:15 PM
Wow lol Im glad you took it so well

very good arguments there, you are making a lot of sense, I feel so dumb now

/sarcasm

Take it ez buddy, I have just 1 question: what was so trolling of me before?
07-13-2009 , 12:18 PM
Interesting matchups to start the day:

Benyamine and Jordan Morgan

Ivey and Eastgate

Prahlahd Freidman and Tom Schneider

Elky and Sebok

Dennis Phillips, JC Tran and Hachem

i see the big names getting cut in half today
07-13-2009 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MontyXC1
Interesting matchups to start the day:

Benyamine and Jordan Morgan and Ivey

Prahlahd Freidman and Tom Schneider

Elky and Sebok

Dennis Phillips, JC Tran and Hachem

i see the big names getting cut in half today
FYP
07-13-2009 , 12:35 PM
Oh man, so much potential for an epic final table. This is the year someone known wins the main event.
07-13-2009 , 12:42 PM
what time does it start today?