Ontario provides government licensed online-poker rooms. not a big pool for mtts, cash games active highest limit is C10-20 (25 on mgm),

In order to make say 100k one is set to pay around 50-70k in rake. I guess it solves the tax problem

Yes, for Canadian tax residents. But you're saying that doesn't apply to you because you don't actually live in Canada (or are considered a nonresident alien for tax purposes). Unless something changed over the last couple of years, you're not allowed to play poker professionally on (some/most?) non-resident visa though. That's why all the US players who moved to Canada after Black Friday had to get a visa in the "self-employed/entrepreneur" category. Jungleman famously told them upon entry that he was there to play poker to which they said "I don't think so" and sent him back home to get a visa.

I obviously have no idea about your status and the details in Canada. I only know about what makes you a resident alien for tax purposes in the US because that situation applies to me. At least in the US it's pretty easy to fall into that category on accident and talking to a tax accountant is a good idea. Especially if the situation might end with a tax hit >50k.

Sorry to hear about your funds . I think it’s funny your screen name is Mr.Crowley (the devil) and you’re worrying about vampires. Lord have mercy!🤣🤣🤣

welcome to 2024 !

Well, I don't know either. I'm a citizen in Russia and a tax resident there, they used my Russian tax ID to complete the form. I also have a Canadian citizenship and spent most of the time here since war hit. I don't file taxes because its not required for poker winnings as far as im concerned. I spent 5 months outside of Canada in 2023.

I don't have a straightforward answer on my eligibility to get the money as a Russian, I think it is a different question. I thought I had two options, and chose the less expensive one. The transfer was easily approved by Paris cage, and I was happy with the decision..

The withholdings for tax reasons part of this is irrelevant.
I work for a bank and I'm pretty sure it's taking this long because you are a Russian citizen and with the sanctions in place, wire transfers go through a lot of checks at every stage.

Yes just assuming things has worked well for you so far. I look forward to your next post:

"The CRA is scamming me out of 30%! I had no idea it would work this way (and still don't understand that it works exactly this way for everyone) but I'm sure this is a conspiracy against me only."

followed by

"The CRA is hitting me with a big penalty for failure to file my taxes correctly. I had no idea it would work this way (and still don't understand that it works exactly this way for everyone) but I'm sure this is a conspiracy against me only."

Stop assuming complicated things will work out just because you want them to be easy. That's what got you in this mess in the first place.

Are there any potential risks in recalling a wire? For example, can they say afterwards that the wire is still under investigation and their waiting for some banks resolution?

Please explain why I should've used the Canadian option. And why I should file taxes in Canada when my only income is from poker, which is not taxable in Ontario.

The mess was initiated by them denying my wire info and putting a russian address instead.

I have zero sympathy for someone that wants to have all of the advantages that come with living in Canada, using their resources, roads, public transportation, etc., yet doesn't want to pay the taxes that come with being able to have those things in the first place. Please tell me you don't get free health care too as a citizen? You say you left Russia because of the war, so you just want to chill out in Canada now and play poker there, but then claim you are Russian and shouldn't have to pay taxes on the money you earned while living in Canada and playing in the US.

Here is a hint, it is not the WSOP fault, it is not Canada's fault, it is not the banking system's fault, it is YOUR fault you are in this position. Stop bitching about it and deal with it. The cost to go to Vegas, withdraw the wire, and find another means of payment, as many her have already told you how, is minimal compared to what is at stake. Or you can keep burying your head in the sand, which is essentially what you have been doing.

- 'Draconian taxes'? You get what you pay for. Why did you come to Canada again?

Like I said, I pay a substantial amount of rake playing poker on fenced ontario poker rooms. And the cost of living in Toronto is pretty high and I spent good money on rent and other things, so you can't say that economy suffers because of people like me. Health care I prefer to do in Russia, because its also free and better quality in many cases. I'm also building a house in Russia. Because living in Canada is not as great nowadays as one might think. It's you who is bitching about a russian player trying to break your divine system.
If poker was taxable in Canada, I would probably live somewhere in Mexico right now.

And again, many suggest get a recall, but I want to clarify first that recall is a safe option.

so you can go back to the cage and they'll pay you out? it's like a couple hundred bucks to fly to vegas from Toronto, seems like an easy solution, no?

easily solved..

goto vegas for 2 weeks..or have them recall the wire now and go in 2 weeks. doesn't really matter.

get paid out in person

apologize for your tone and attitude and say thank you..

next time don't try to avoid taxes..

According to them, yes. Is that a safe option with no strings attached? I'm not sure.

Then they can say there's a delay in the recall process, and they can keep telling me that they are working on resolving the issue for as long as they want.

I'm trying to say that the most logical option would be for them to give me the tracking number, but for some unknown reasons they do not wish to do so.

It is not a tax situation, if I pay 30% tax around 52k will go to US tax system. If the money "goes into abyss between banks" they can just send it to
some charity and then split between managers. They can just say the money never returned to their account, and that would be it. There will be no way for me to contact Wells Fargo to confirm.

They also recommended to take back my wire information slip, then tried to sell me their SWIFT number as a tracking number, and now chances are they want me to fall into their final trap with the recall.

Apologizing for what, so far I didn't brake any rules.

Skimmed through everything since my last post so might have missed something....but I would e-mail back the guy from caesars who said if you were there you could recall the wire, etc....ask him how it'll work. Then, fly there and do that. Just get cash and try contacting some poker players in the meantime to find a trade for crypto. Can easily get that to a bank account in whatever country quickly (except for maybe russian accounts currently) after you have usdt. I'd try whatever, quickly, to avoid potentially losing the 30%.

Pretty sure if anything is your sole income it's taxable. Canadian tax exemptions for gambling apply to windfalls, not consistent profits from a skill game. Not a lawyer and not judging here either, just sayin.

Poker is considered a game where everybody enters trying to make profit, and lacks business properties such as a physical place or business tools to secure a steady income.

Again, I'm having doubts that this recall thing will be legit. Since their activity is pretty suspicious.

The thing is it seems like one cannot get an official statement from them.
In order to track a wire I simply need a tracking number, which they refuse to give.
At least it would give me some information.
Agreeing on a recall means to trust their word again. And at this point it is unclear whether they sent the wire in the first place. What could be easier than giving me
the tracking number? Yet they have reasons to hide it from me without any explanations.

This is just so wrong on so many levels. CRA is pretty clear that if poker is your primary source of income it is very much taxable, and you are in avoidance if you are not paying it.

This doesn't mean that your wire problem isn't real or worth our interest, but the lack of accurate info throughout this thread reminds me that we're seeing one possibly myopic viewpoint. You tried to game a system you've been (possibly inadvertently...possibly) gaming for a while now, and it backfired.

I very much doubt a recall will be successful as no bank will risk releasing funds in either direction if they are obligated to conduct full checks first.
Requesting a recall will probably just extend the process further by raising even more questions.
Your best option is just sit and wait. I don't doubt Paris sent the wire. You're just going to have to wait.
Bear in mind, if you requested payment via cheque for that amount, you'd be looking at a minumum of 6 weeks for negotiation to take place.
(timescales based on UK banking standards)

Just to confirm. Which country is your bank in that you have requested the wire to?

Thanks for your answer. The bank is in Canada.

I mean you’re really not doing any favors discussing your finances/taxes on a public forum.

You’re also really not doing any favors by not trying to work with the other party to find a solution. If you are unsure about the process of a recall simply convey them to the other party and see what they say. If you don’t like their answer and they don’t have any other solutions then get a lawyer. Personally I think he’s being reasonable and has a reasonable solution so I’d try that. I’d try to get it so you can fill out the forms over email and then they let u know when funds are available and u get them in person but maybe he can give a good reason why you have to be there in person the whole time and then I guess I’d do that. If it really doesn’t work out get a lawyer. Not much else you can do. Not much we can do either not like we can strong arm a big corporation to give u money we feel like you are entitled to.

Fixating on trying to get a tracking number is a bad path to go. They’ve already indicated they aren’t going to give that to you. It’s probably company policy not to. It’s not going to change unless a lawyer gets involved and won’t do any good at this point anyways.

Ok.
A wire transfer from the US to Canada using a Russian passport as ID is going to raise flags. I take it you used your Canadian passport to gain entry to the US and not your Rusiian one. Cue multiple flags.


Sorry to say you could well be in for a long wait.

Makes sense, how long? months, years?
Is there anything in my power to help them clarify things?

Months. In these cases they will refer back to the sender, Paris, if they have any questions so stay in contact with them and don't assume they are scamming you. They're not.

Ok, fair enough. Then why are they acting so strange, refused my wire info, sent wire to Canada providing my Russian ID (probably knowing it would raise flags), refusing to provide the tracking number?
They mentioned Wells Fargo asked questions about this wire, and they gave them answers. But again they never bothered to contact me about it and ask for my Canadian address.
It just seems it is in their interest to make this payout long and complicated, don't you think?