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I'm pretty sure late reg was through the end of the break of Level 3 (of 5 levels of play on Day 1) last year. So not exactly 1 second later of tourny time from last year.

And last years structure (it'll be different this year most likely) you would've had 83bb with an initial starting stack at start of Day 2. If that remains roughly the same, I could see lots of people preferring to reg Day 2 and skip the ante-less levels.

http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/structuresh...1487_16465.pdf

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01-17-2019 , 04:04 PM

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Pretty sure the option to register at the start of day 2 is pretty appealing to some players, especially those who fly to Vegas for the ME and prefer to do that two days later than the last day 1.

They could even schedule the event in a way where the second day 2 is on a Saturday, enabling players to come to town on Friday night and leave on Sunday night, unless they make it to day 4 which means they are ITM.

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01-17-2019 , 04:32 PM

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True I thought I started later than this last year. Still not a big deal

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01-17-2019 , 07:21 PM

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Pretty sure the option to register at the start of day 2 is pretty appealing to some players, especially those who fly to Vegas for the ME and prefer to do that two days later than the last day 1.

Ya I bet the extended entry brings in way more recs than pros, who would probably prefer to jump in on day 1 and accumulate chips in the softest $10k in the universe.

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01-17-2019 , 10:43 PM

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Looks like it's shaping up to be a good un'. Lot of 10k and up events this year.

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01-18-2019 , 09:02 AM

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MM and MS back to Friday and Saturday day 1s.

Also looks like no more events after the ME, series ends with ME

are the structures out for wsop2019 for any events yet with all the new inflated starting stacks???

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01-18-2019 , 03:18 PM

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No and there are a few events after main so far. Structures won't be for a couple months.

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01-18-2019 , 03:53 PM

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I guess I can live with the BB Ante being imposed on the Main Event, though I expect issues with its implementation this year.

But I don't really like the buyin until start of Day 2 change. Not sure what the point is. For an event like the Main, I think everyone should have to play on Day 1, even if max-late reg'd on Day 1, at least you have to play 1 Level on Day 1. Is WSOP fully moving towards Matt Savage quirky-type tournaments with Quantum Reloads and other BS?

i'd understand being against late entry, but being ok with playing just 1 level on day one instead of just being able to enter at the start of day 2 makes no sense.

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01-18-2019 , 04:30 PM

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i'd understand being against late entry, but being ok with playing just 1 level on day one instead of just being able to enter at the start of day 2 makes no sense.

I was actually mistaken, late-reg on Day 1's ended after Level 3, so you had to play at least 2 levels on Day 1, or 4 hours of Day 1 tourny time.

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01-18-2019 , 05:05 PM

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I don't understand the complaining about late reg, if it isn't a re-entry tourney, and if you can't late reg late enough to fold to the money.

If it is a great advantage to reg Day 2, then do it. If it isn't, then don't worry if others do. What am I missing?

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01-18-2019 , 06:15 PM

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Generally speaking and for most other tournaments I agree with you.

I just think for the WSOP Main Event every player should have to play on Day 1, even if they max-late reg on Day 1.

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01-18-2019 , 06:24 PM

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Generally speaking and for most other tournaments I agree with you.

I just think for the WSOP Main Event every player should have to play on Day 1, even if they max-late reg on Day 1.

But why exactly? What makes it different? Would you be OK with them having reg open until 5 min before end of Day 1? If so, you are ok losing players who don’t want to have to sit through the day between Day 1 and 2 in Vegas to make sure they play that 5 minutes?

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01-18-2019 , 06:32 PM

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The ME is a different beast. Most pros, who would late reg any other tournament, don’t with the ME as they risk losing out on a hell of a lot of recreational players’ chips.
I would think most people who reg on day 2 would only be doing it because of work commitment reasons. If you’re hampered by work commitments, you’re generally a recreational player. Recreational players want the full experience. They want to start with 200+ BBs.

Therefore, I think the numbers will be low regging on day 2.

Of course, I may well be way off, but that’s where my logic takes me.

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01-18-2019 , 07:51 PM

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I feel it's a skill to make it through and #justbag the ME on Day 1, by trying to navigate the minefields of deepstack poker against recs who can and do play any 2 from any position. In the past, numerous pros have been felted on Day 1 because they simply try to run over the rec players with naked aggression and they end up busting themselves. Making it through Day 1 is like a mini-tournament of the larger tournament, in my opinion, and I don't like WSOP evidently now saying you don't even have to play Day 1 if you don't want to.

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01-18-2019 , 08:30 PM

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Recreational players want the full experience. They want to start with 200+ BBs.

I am a recreational player and would consider playing the ME if that meant either playing for max 2 days or making the money which certainly would make playing additional days worth it.

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I feel it's a skill to make it through and #justbag the ME on Day 1, by trying to navigate the minefields of deepstack poker against recs who can and do play any 2 from any position.

Right now you can late reg day 1 and blind down your way into day 2.

Based on your statements, you wouldn’t be OK with somebody buying in at the start of day 2 even if they only received an (approximate) amount of chips they would have if they had blinded down. That doesn’t make much sense. Why would you force a player to physically get to the Rio, pay their buy-in and then leave again instead of letting them buy-in at a later time?

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01-18-2019 , 08:31 PM

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Presumably they can and likely will run further satellites throughout Day 1C given people who qualify can then choose either Day 2 to start...?!

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01-18-2019 , 08:41 PM

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I think a good amount of pros and recs will reg late. Pros miss out on rec player chips in every tourney they late reg. No different here.

And for recs, I agree a lot wouldn’t dream of it. But there are a lot of what we could call “semi-recs” who aren’t pros but would be OK late regging, esp if it saves two days of travel costs and vacation.

Also some recs will be excited by the idea of being “close to the money.”

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01-18-2019 , 08:42 PM

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Based on your statements, you wouldn’t be OK with somebody buying in at the start of day 2 even if they only received an (approximate) amount of chips they would have if they had blinded down. That doesn’t make much sense. Why would you force a player to physically get to the Rio, pay their buy-in and then leave again instead of letting them buy-in at a later time?

Of course I'd be ok with someone max late-reg'ing Day 1 and blinding down into Day 2 if that's what that player wanted to do, why wouldn't I?

Maybe I'm the crazy one here, but for a tournament like the WSOP Main Event, I just feel like to play on Day 2, you have to bag chips from Day 1.

In general, I'm not opposed to Day 2 buyins, I just think it cheapens the prestige of the WSOP Main Event. What's next, unlimited rebuys? Quantum reloads?

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01-18-2019 , 09:06 PM

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Presumably they can and likely will run further satellites throughout Day 1C given people who qualify can then choose either Day 2 to start...?!

That's an interesting point, but to play those satellites you would have to turn up on 1C to play them, so those satellites will stop at the end of 1C instead of the dinner break of 1C as they have done historically. If you can't make it to Vegas due to time saving reasons, this makes little difference, unless you are foreseeing a rush of late night/early morning satellites. Unlikely.

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01-19-2019 , 11:35 AM

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Why couldn’t they have sats on day 2AB to buy in to the ME before the start of day 2C?

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01-19-2019 , 12:08 PM

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Good point!

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01-22-2019 , 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WiCane

Having the 25K PLO before the 10K PLO is dumb, should be swapped.

Its the very first thought I had, closely followed by the lack of a PLO tourney in the $1000-1500 range.

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01-22-2019 , 12:51 AM

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Its the very first thought I had, closely followed by the lack of a PLO tourney in the $1000-1500 range.

There will be. The full schedule is still to be released.

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01-23-2019 , 03:35 PM

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Another 34 events announced with details of starting stacks and confirmation that Big Blind Ante will be in place for all NL events as well as daily deepstacks and satellites.

http://www.wsop.com/m/news/?newsID=1...2019&Month=Jan

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