The real White Magic...

stopping for the night on the bubble severely disadvantages Salomon and Einhorn. the pros will just swap more with eachother to guarantee a min cash for themselves and likely softish play eachother tomorrow

had to mute commentary. hellmuth is not only bad at commentating regarding poker talk, but hes just weird. something about him is so off.

the way he said "ive seen erik hit these rivers before" while laughing/giggling when kaverman turned the K vs seidel in the AK vs QQ race. that was just weird/creepy/off.

Agreed. I'd rather listen to Antonio.

i wonder where some of the recreational regulars are. dan shak, bill perkins, bill klein, paul newey. looks like dan shak is in the venetian $5k. i wonder why they opted to skip out on the $1M one drop.

Probably because it is a million dollars and they will be playing against teams of action swappers. They dont become million aires by being idiots.

what a messed up dynamic it must be sitting at one of these tables and everyone but you has a piece of everybody else at the table

its f'd

Jeff boski did

Gonna defend Hellmuth in the booth. Not because anything he says is correct, but because everything he says is ****ing hilarious. That gag about starting to learn GTO nine days ago and then shipping his 15th was unreal. Truly the Donald Trump of poker.

i know Bill Klien was in town. Dan Shak was suprising to me but he seemed to almost not play the one drop invitational 2 years ago

they are probably over these "Big Swap for One Drop" tournaments with the pros.

Where was the guy that won the MGM invitation freeroll? did he sell his seat or did MGM just let him dust off the mil ball in the pits?

I understand that the billionaires don't want to feel that they are "the fish" amongst a bunch of pros that are action swapping in order to cover variance.

But

This is a tournament that runs every two years (in fact this is the first time in 4 years that is open to pros) and the objective is to raise as much money as possible for the One Drop charity.

48 players generates ~$4m for the charity. In addition, the more billionaires in the field, the more opportunities you have for an Einhorn to make a big cash and donate everything to the charity.

So that being said, where is Guy? Why on earth is he not getting his friends to play this? This isn't about whether billionaires are favourites to lose 0.05% of their net worth vs the best players in the world, it's about supporting the charity.

Why on earth should it make a difference to them if Byron Kaverman has 10%, 50% or 100% of himself?

TL/DR: Sort it out Guy. Get this tournament organised properly and maximise the takings for One Drop.

It is bad that Guy is not playing, plus the last two champions do not even show up. I understand Colman does not have that type of money without backing and Tsang won an invitational version but he is playing for huge money in Macau and Europe and does not try to defend his title.

Why would Guy turn up?

Why would rich business men play against 'cheats' and in a game they have the disavantage in [as the pros play and work at their game all the time]

I'm sure rich buisness men can donate to charity in ways that work better for them, then 'losing' in a poker game

And I am sure they can use the million buy in - to play better poker games, with more of their rich friends and less of the Germans all on the same roll

All the pro players can't afford to buy in, and so the people / person who does buy in a few pros has a massive edge over all the rich businessmen with their one entry and lower skillset at the game

I think suggesting Guy or his friends should play - really is not seeing the whole picture from their point of view

Jay Farber was pretty terrible. Shook hands with Riess and told him how much of a card rack he was.

10/20k big bet mix running in Bobby's room - Sick game

This tournament is 1/20th of Rick Salomon's net worth, 1/50th of Paul Newey's net worth, and can range up to 1/1,000th of some of the wealthier rec's net worth. Guy should be networking and making it clear to his friend's that the point of this tournament is to raise money for the charity. The more Einhorn's in this field, the higher the chance that the charity makes more money.

As for the accusation that the pro's are somehow cheating, that is ridiculous. They are either reducing variance through swaps or teaming up to get one person into the tournament. I do both of these things on a regular basis - I enter tournaments I couldn't afford to by selling pieces and I swap to reduce variance.

Am I also a cheat?

Yes but swapping in a tourney with 24 players is way worse than a huge field event because you get more opportunities to cheat. Calling when the more +EV play is to raise is cheating, but becomes the right play when you dont want you or the guy you swap with to bust.

Selling action is fine but swapping with someone in the same tourney is wrong even if many people do it.

Yes of course it leads to cheating

It's baout having an unfair advantage

If you put your own money up - you are under different pressure

As soon as you swap, then you will not only have seperate and secret info - you will also [if you are skilled] be playing differently asgainst different players, depending on who owns what of who

Yes - if this is not announced I would defintely say it's unfair and cheating

And 1/20th of what someone's net worth... why on earth should they enter putting up that much of their money... against better [pros] who are not putting up the money themselves

That's stupid

And why should they be persuaded to play for the charity angle - they can do their own charity giving/work - all silly silly reasons

So... you would put up 1/20th of your net worth in a toruney - that you are a massive dog in... and the others are colluding/getting bought in..... you think that is a good idea [?]

I think you have massive blinkers on

And to suggest they should do it because it's 'for charity'... ha... the only charity would be for the pros that are cheating

Guy has long been turned off poker because of the way he was colluded against

The sad thing is, if they had of treated him better - they would have had him and his friends to skin for many years to come... greedy cheating pros

Saloman is on the brink of 3 straight cashes in one drop though so he has profited understandable for him to keep playing.

lol, I saw this a couple times and wondered why you were calling some guy a dick! So I had to go check who it was

yes you were right, Cada 4th in POY, wsop.com is very very slow!

lol, The Micros, blast from the past. Tx for posting, hadn't seen this. One of my fave songs is the Devilish one (RIP David):

He wasn't promised anything. The structure sheet says all breaks are 20 minutes, he posted a video where you can hear them announce the break is 20 minutes. So I'm sure everyone would like to know why the break was 15 minutes. I'd be hella pissed too.

more sense than dollars