Exactly what I was thinking.
If the hole card cams weren't there, I think Labat would've found a fold there. Nobody wants to be the idiot who goes viral for folding KK preflop and be wrong.

What were the hands when miles jammed 20 mil on Lynskey on the j93q board first hand after last break?

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And either first or second most wsop events played post Moneymaker. Only Daniel might have more.

Nice factoid, have to give the man his due

I hope he enters and wins the one drop

a call looks stronger imo.

good post

yep, but as the poster said above... he levelled himself.

this. the Final Table bully dynamic has been removed.

Miles had QJo, Lynskey had KQs. Lynskey opened BTN, Miles 3-bet from SB, Lynskey called. Miles c-bet flop for like 47% pot, Lynskey calls. Miles jams the turn. Lynskey folds without much of a tank.

Well that was crazy.

I think Labat folds there if he didn’t have the other two covered. I like the call.

What was the action when Manion folded KK the other day?

https://twitter.com/PokerNews/status...07002655248384

Hand history is a little unclear. He says he opened to 500K (guessing blinds at 100K/200K or 120K/240K), villain raises to 1.5M, and then says villain shoves for 16M. Maybe Manion 4-bet and villain 5-bet shoved?

Crazy hand. Against almost everyone super easy call. Against these two guys, with Manion not getting a count or really thinking, just shoveling it in, probably should honesty fold.

Agree that he screwed himself to an extent by not 3betting.

I do also think people are WAY overstating the impact of the final table bubble and value of laddering a spot. The jump to 9th is the same $$ as the jumps to 11th and 10th were. So no huge money impact. This isn't the N9 where making the final 9 means you get rest/patches/coaching and have time to arrange family/friend travel or whatever.

I feel like no one would say fold if they were 12 handed but the jump to 11th is the same money wise.

With so much up top, overly nitty folding sucks. Finishing 1st 15% of the time and 10th 85% of the time pays more than finishing 5th 100% of the time. That said, I think in this spot with this action, Manion only has AA so we pukefold and love that we lost the pure minimum.

Agreed!

Agreed. The November nine era bubble was a bigger bubble than what should have been realistically feasible really. At that time the final table was the only live poker that espn showed of the main event so the value of making it to November was massive. Now, especially this year without even a 24 hour break it's a much smaller deal to bust out in 10th place

Where you getting those numbers?

Intelligent guess.

I feel this would be possible only if it wasn't Manion. Manion may just fold A/K in that spot. If it was Lynskey, Cynn or Dyer you could much more easily think that that's possible.

so you do this?put in 30% of your stack then fold?

No one will really care. Public will always think it's just gambling, because to understand why skill is involved takes a modicum of effort not available to the general public. Only chance to legalize is if the correct special interests lobby the correct politicians, as is for most things to pass legislation in the USA.

Post deleted as it was meant to be a reply. Will redo.

All I know is he became a legend to me with that 3 barrel bluff shove. It was beautiful imo even if he does get called imo. He leveraged every bit of image he had earned to that point with all those prior check backs on flops he missed after raising pre flop. He managed the bet sizing perfectly, leaving 7 million to shove river which was just enough fold equity even against a guy who has 50 million and a raggy top pair mid kicker.

I slapped the table with glee when the other dude folded! (and while close, it was the right thing to do in that spot imo - which I also think Cada was banking on. It's harder to bluff idiots as we all know).

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who is doing the poker play by play, on day 6. this guy could put Lunesta out of bussines. He speaks like hes doing golf commentary in a library. ive never slept so good!

Serious question - what is considered a "spoiler" in this thread? Is it just live info available before the delay? e.g. twitter? So iow if it's been on espn or PG already it's ok?

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Yes. Anything that's been show on the stream is ok to talk about. But not live updates before they happen on TV

Yup. Pretty much what I said but much more nicely concise ;-)

I'm curious if he was being intentionally sneaky with the flat or simple being cautious. Given the overcall I'd lean the former but not positive. Either way it cost him bigtime. It was just really bad and unfortunate timing lol. AA KK KK. Poker jfc.

Cool thanks

Sounds like Nick Schulman lol. He's not boring at all imo - but he's got that golf announcer voice going on. Actually Ali Nejad has a bit of that too - and he does the actual play by play. Nick is color.

Crazy hand, bad call by Labat there - under those conditions AA by one player has got to be >85%. And what did he cost himself in equity - about a million?