I heard $30k/month. I don't remember who told me, why they told me, or when it was that we were talking about it. I do remember thinking the person probably had as good an idea as anybody so it might be fairly accurate.

Also heard from someone else that the deal with UB was only possible bc of his 1 million followers on twitter. That probably isn't a huge surprise to anyone, but just shows it was clear UB was just looking for the guy with the loudest social media voice.

Because having 950,000 inactive followers/bots/sex bots/people who don't know why they follow you is super valuable today.

30 pieces of silver

It sucks that across a wide spectrum of institutions we have to suffer the less-than trust fund babies getting things they never earned and ruining the merit system that we all (except the powerful) wish existed. With all the talk of free markets, free choices, competitive forces determining who wins and who loses etc etc...with all that supposed market magic we still are helpless against nepotism. You work hard? FU. You're talented? Get in line and wait. Your father is Mr. Big shot? Step right up here son and don't worry about a thing.

Its not as bad a GW actually becoming president (how did that happen???) but it's an obvious injustice. I just heard today that Connie Mack is running for US senate from Florida. I knew Connie Mack used to be a senator. I thought "he's going BACK into the senate??". Nope. Turns out his kid, of the same name, is running. Moreover the kid basically skipped the republican primary, refused to debate any republican, and will nevertheless be the republican nominee it looks like. So here you have classic nepotism. Mack the less-than doesn't even have to go through the motions of competing because the party bosses decided he would be the nominee and they have the power hence it is written. It behooves powerful people to put their children in power, despite whatever pesky little value system is preached every day in our country. The rank and file of course don't like it, but they accept it.

I would estimate that it is unlikely that Barry Greenstein and Mike sexton are not good friends. Not saying that is the specific mechanism whereby a notorious douchebag gets a gig like that, but it probably is.

If you don't like it write letters and emails. Unlike governments, businesses are sometimes susceptible to their consumer demands.

Have the details of Hellmuth's contract been made public? Also, I never heard anything about him even trying to get out of it at any point. I would love to see documents of who was getting paid what under what conditions.

Back to the topic though, WPT you done f'd up.

Yeah this was a rumoured amount I heard/saw a lot. Just rumours tho

There is no way for us to open the offshore trusts, but our source told us about a fairly large ownership stake in the original development company. It appears those shares were swapped for Excapsa shares when they created that vehicle to launch an IPO. The kind of percentage discussed equates to one of the top ownership trusts, two of which were in the 13M share range. The Feb distribution was $3.18M and if he held 13M shares out of the the final share tally, his take would have been approx $247k. The second distribution was a closing one and amounted to $500k and a 13M share holding would have received approx $39k.

Jim Ryan picked up $180k. A decent chunk of stock was cancelled following the investigation, though it wouldn't make sense that Hellmuth's shares were part of those. Oh yeah, Fluffhead picked up some $65k as well.

Not that I know of, but brainwashdodo (or at least the individual feeding the 2nd batch of bwdd's document trove) released a document showing annie getting $47k/mo, which was later adjusted downward to $25k + PR expenses (while she claimed to not be in a PR role). Phil was team captain, so you can probably draw some conclusions on the value of his contract. I asked his agent if he would do an interview for the film project I'm working on, but ... yeah, I know.

Was Hellmuth an Owner/shareholder?

they should have signed joe serock obv!

regardless of whether or not you think joe sebok is morally culpable for anything that happened, the poker playing public mostly seems to think he is. i dont understand this as a business move.

The bolded disgusting part almost deserves its own thread, or does noone care about the Cereus travesty enough anymore?

If this is true, it surely puts Hellmuth on par with Lederer and Ferguson in the pure scum/ripping off the community stakes??

If anything, Hellmuth is worse as he helped damage control the first cheating incidents

If I had "money" stuck on Cereus, I wouldnt appreciate the fact that Hellmuth and his cronies were able to extract any money from the smouldering ruins of this black, corrupt carcus of online gaming

I can't tell whether you know this or not from your posts, but Sebok signed with UB well after it was shown that they were thieving scum. It's not like he was already with the site and was trying to protect his reputation, he specifically signed with them under the pretenses of finding out what happened, then whored himself out for them.

Not sure how relevant this is to be honest but...

Brian Balsbaugh who is the Agent for most of the big name pros tweeted today about how a company he was negotiating with recently rated someones "celebrity value" using thier Klout scoring which is like a social media ranking if you like. After reading this thread seems like this may have been related as I was not aware of his 1 million plus followers.

If it is it may explain WPT's decision a little.

Just a though.

I'm excited for ElevenGrover's film.

too bad 2p2 doesnt have the upvote system (like on reddit), this really should be the first thing everyone in this thread reads

this is a good point

Sebok's Klout score is 41.

Mine's currently at 64 /sickbragbro

They know Sebok is a "company man" who will stonewall the public, and spew propaganda to his 1 million Twitter followers.

kevmath for life

It is because you don't understand that to many people, there is no such thing as "bad" publicity. If the WPT had signed Dennis Phillips, you think the thread would have been this long?

how does he have 1 mil followers? I am missing something here?

Looking forward to some sick commentary.

Maybe him and Leggett really did find the HHs and are now trading them in on Door #2.

As much as I love Hellmuth every single word in this is true. He needs to stop concealing what he knows and he needs to out his so called friends. Peoples lives got ruined in all this and some continue to really hurt from it.