Why would you need to share a screen when you can just discuss the action over discord/skype etc. (or on your phone/via voice or any apps). It's basically as unenforceable as someone standing over your shoulder.

lol party poker, i believe OP is legit and party **** up give the man his money ****ing party poker. u suck

Well, I agree. However, we should not assume that every punter is taking every precaution. Also, screen shots of discord *could* find their way to the integrity enforcement employees of a site.

We just don’t know, and often the ways that alleged cheaters screw up and get caught seems silly in hindsight.

I’m not saying OP cheated. I’m just hypothesizing ways that alleged cheaters get caught.

How in the world going silent doesn't help him now? Everything he posts in this thread is going to be potentially used against him in the legal proceedings, in ways he may not foresee, that's why lawyers tell you to STFU. Lawyers say little about the case, say it very carefully, and want to be the only ones saying anything, because they know that blabbing before your day in court is a zero play.

lol adjusted is stupid, thats why ppl plea the 5th

Oh, where do you play then?

If they had proof then they would know which it was! I would be very surprised if Game Integrity staff shared any player-specific information as you suggest.

PP is the site I would most trust, even above stars, who seem strong on game integrity but have occasionally demonstrated dodgy behaviour like the supernova theft. PP simply wouldn't do this to OP without solid evidence. You also have to respect that they bump everyone else up. Some sites confiscate funds without passing on to other players.

I simply meant that it isn't going to help him settle amicably with Party now that he's gone on a public forum. It was mentioned earlier in the thread that Party's terms and conditions state that as soon as you go on a public forum with your grievance then you lose the chance to settle with Party the easy way.

So I meant that clamming up now isn't going to help him settle with Party on a non-litigious route because he already took it to a public forum.

Apparently stating a simple truth makes me ******ed.

You can also pursue claims and settle disputes via SBR's complaint system ... more for bookies but I imagine they have a contact with Party ...

the whole "DON'T POST ABOUT IT ON A FORUM OR ELSE" is just nightmarish PR if anyone with a brain reads the terms and conditions ... T&C for most gambling sites/enterprises are egregiously in the companies favor and make situations like this awful because they can almost always find something to shut you down for ... a good example is Poker sites that offer books as well ... ACR uses a blank site which for those in the industry is easily recognizable as Bookmaker (it is not labeled as such though and BM operates independently as well as one of the more prominent offshore books) ... both sites have clear rules about multiaccounting, so the decisions to seize funds would be justifiable, but still selective and predatory on the sites side ... we're all just speculating here, but seizing 160k from a human being is either fair if they actively cheated the other participants and had an edge, or nightmarish if it's based on a technicality or a minor network (IP address) similarity ... we won't know until there's an update

If you gave up the opportunity to settle with Party amicably, you have all the more reason to STFU before you give up on the opportunity to win a non-amicable legal fight.

Don’t even try, these people are delusional bootlickers who think the best way to handle a messy legal battle is by going on Joey Inghram’s podcast

You mean how the OP posted this thread and tried to do the very such thing?

Yeah, and he was an idiot for doing so, which I said in my very first post in this thread

lol yeah like he ever had a chance to settle amicably, they insta shipped 160K to other players and kept his 16K winnings from roulette, so there was never going to be a situation where they admitted they were wrong and paid out 160K out of their own pocket with no outside pressure

So while this thread may not be the best idea, let's not pretend he screwed up and had the chance to sort things out over a few nice emails with Party

The confidentiality part of T&C is never going to be relevant here. You're protected as a consumer - and are able to give bad reviews.

The interesting question here is, imagine OP's friend played some nl50 cash games using OP's account - does this warrant having to forfeit 160k? Does it change if party never warned him? Or if this happened 6 months ago?

Guys I've got the mystery figured out. The roommate played the tournament on OP's account. That's why he is unaccounted for. How partypoker figured that out is still a mystery.

My guess would be a social media post "Hey my roommate just won 160k at pokerz"

It seems to always be something silly....

Hire this man as the official arbitrator!

I wanna be a fly on the wall in their house/moms basement. What would they be talking about? Are they bitchin and blaming? Are they admitting they shouldn’t have cheated? What ever is being said, I bet it’s juicy!

Agreed.