ITT: NLHE players who don't understand the concept of saving a big bet in limit games.

Sorry guys - I posted this when they first started heads up and had almost equal chip stacks.

Sorry guys. The original post was made when Heimiller had185k and they were almost heads up.

I mean that there is all the reasons to believe that Yamron was paid, and to be honest, why wouldn't he? And if he is friends with Ivey for a long time, not necessarily a "payment" needed to be even made considering the situation.

Yamron played quite awfully and lost his chips in 8-game in like 20 minutes from a slight chip advantage without showdowns even. To the people saying: "nlhe players don't realise the value of saving one big bet" the best way of "saving" one big bet is not the 3b turn and c-f the river. Or donk call/ check call every street before releasing in sixth and seventh street in stud, where he lost most of his chips i believe.

Naturally, if you're playing someone who is considered to be the best poker player /soul reader whatever, you would want to get it in preflop with decent equity with a possibility to cripple the mind reader, especially if you do realize you don't stand a chance in mixed limit games.

Gongrats to Ivey and everyone who bet probably took this scenario into account and are fine with it.

New math?

Thread trying to find problems where there are none. This Yamon was the weak link all night on that table. He was limp folding so many pots all night and ivey and the other pro's were targeting him.

Playing mixed games you're not gonna get to the river that often and when you're not getting that many strong starting hands and you're a nit the over player will roll over you.

The risk of getting caught paying people off probably isn't worth the possibility of losing lots of future side betting possibilities.

This thread happens every time Ivey is heads up for a bracelet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh9hJ...ature=youtu.be

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It's because the people making these statements can't play anything other than hold 'em.

Also, this thread is pointless.

i just don't think there is any way Ivey would risk his reputation by doing something like that.

Poker is about making money. If the guy got heads up with Ivey and he was offered more money for 2nd than 1st, why wouldn't he let Ivey win and collect his $? It could be as simple as a 30 second conversation between him and Ivey.

"Bruce Yamron isn't the most well-known player to the general public, but to Ivey, this heads-up match was something special. The two have known each other since Ivey's days of learning the game in Atlantic City, and as both battled for the bracelet, there was a camaraderie that showed an enjoyment of the true challenge with so much on the line."

and allows him to crush baccarat

"Ivey risk his rep".....?

LOL!

Haven't you heard about his edge sorting capers?

First three betting that turn and check folding that river are fine-that river killed a huge amount of the three bet range.

Check calling in stud and releasing when the bets get bigger/Ivey's board looks a ton better isn't exactly uncommon.

I don't see how anyone who understands more games then no limit could look at that heads up and see anything other then a better player running over a weaker one.

Most pointless thread ever?

You answered your own question.

I don't think anybody actually read all of the details what I wrote. The first thing I clearly stated was that this was only a possibility if the total money Ivey/Negreanu had at stake was significantly higher. They would never risk their reputation for $300k but I even clearly stated the number $3 million which is a completely different scenario.

idiocy of NVG with a strong showing itt.

I'd actually be very surprised if Ivey didn't pay him off.
The value probably isn't much in current monetary value, its another impressive and recent occurrence on his resume, which leads to

A) Endorsements
B) Cash game invites continue
C) Bracelet bets

Typical NVG'er.

Oh the internet. Everyone is looking for a conspiracy.

Pokernews is doing a thing called Ivey Stories.

One segment has an old school gambler on there named Richard Skylar and he says that in his 40 years of gambling he's never encountered a classier gambler.

After Chip Reece died, Ivey went to Doyle and said that he owed Chip a big number. He could have easily have let it slide. But he wanted to make it right.

He is honorable. And until he shows us otherwise, let it go.

Is there anything wrong with Ivey buying out his opponent to win a bracelet?

Surely that is factored in to the bet?

I know someone who forfeited the chance to win a bracelet heads up.

He was down 2:1 in chips and got an even money chop but the other guy got the bracelet.

Knowing Iveys shady history this is the most likely scenario. They being old friends especially and Yamron being an older gentleman who´s gonna keep the secret. But I think everyone would do it in Iveys place here, no doubt. Money talks...

Of course there would be something with it, even if people betting factor in the possibility.

It's still kind of out of line to be speculating about any particular person without any evidence that they actually did anything wrong though.

None of those hand were unreasonable-how hard is it so hard to believe that even stacks hu the player largely regarded as the best in the world would win?

'Knowing Ivey's shady history' lol at that comment how about knowing his skill level?