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12-29-2021 , 12:51 AM
A World Series of Chess could be a lot of fun. Invite the top 20 chess players to play a two table SNG with the final final four playing chess to determine the winner.

The easy part might be finding a billionaire philanthropist (perhaps the man Isai Scheinberg himself) to produce a huge prize pool. $5M for first, $1M for second, and cash for all participants. The following year might an actual MTT with all of the world's GMs invited.

The governing body of chess is genuinely terrible and has been for nearly 100 years. I'd love to see all of the world's chess players gravitate to a much better program. The WSOC could be like the all-star break accustomed to every sport.
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12-29-2021 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
A World Series of Chess could be a lot of fun. Invite the top 20 chess players to play a two table SNG with the final final four playing chess to determine the winner.

The easy part might be finding a billionaire philanthropist (perhaps the man Isai Scheinberg himself) to produce a huge prize pool. $5M for first, $1M for second, and cash for all participants. The following year might an actual MTT with all of the world's GMs invited.

The governing body of chess is genuinely terrible and has been for nearly 100 years. I'd love to see all of the world's chess players gravitate to a much better program. The WSOC could be like the all-star break accustomed to every sport.
Yeah, that sounds great. Now the World Series of Poker needs to figure out how to do this with POKER.
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12-29-2021 , 09:24 AM
There is no need to overthink and over plan the synergization of poker and chess. All that needs to be done is to put chess inside the same physical space that the WSOP will occupy at the Horseshoe (Bally's/Paris). This proximity of players/organizers between the two major games will create the butterfly effect necessary to create the atmosphere in which creativity, innovation and organic discipline in the planning, organizing, directing, coordinating and controlling of the poker/chess synergy will be bred, developed, exploited and expanded.

Just create the physical proximity and allow organized chaos to take over. There is really no need for chess and poker to be separate.

Anyway, I love the name change to Horseshoe. It represents going backward while moving forward.
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12-30-2021 , 09:34 PM
This potentially good thread just got weirder and weirder. First we had people seriously suggesting we should exclude the fish from the biggest value tourney of the year (yeah I'm really incentivised to make the trip across the Atlantic to play a 10k event full of competent regs), then it turned into a World Series of Chess thread that fundamentally misunderstands the differences between the two games.

Until someone invents a variant of chess that has just enough of a luck element that fish like me can convince themselves they stand a chance against GMs, there will never be a mass buy-in chess event along the lines of WSOP.
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12-31-2021 , 07:12 AM
There is another thread about a tournament that would exclude anyone that has more than 25k on the Hendon. Perhaps, this would be a good idea. It doesn't have to be 25k. It could be 50 or 100k. But I can't help but conclude that a world class cash game grinder who has great fundamentals and flexibility wouldn't rush to register into one of these guaranteed soft Hendon capped tournaments.
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12-31-2021 , 03:50 PM
everyone disagrees but I think having it on the strip[ will balloon those hotel prices, excal gonna be 100$ a night LMAO


hope they shoot out the schedule and list early so we have time to plan
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12-31-2021 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
everyone disagrees but I think having it on the strip[ will balloon those hotel prices, excal gonna be 100$ a night LMAO
4 feet by 8 feet capsule hotel rooms for poker players near or at the tournament area. Zero commute distance, zero commute time. 40 bucks per night.
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12-31-2021 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Steer
4 feet by 8 feet capsule hotel rooms for poker players near or at the tournament area. Zero commute distance, zero commute time. 40 bucks per night.
This is a great idea. They could have a pop-up hotel. Rooms (errrr capsules) should be $80/night though.
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01-02-2022 , 12:33 AM
Anyone know when they are planning to release the schedule?
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01-02-2022 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by navyvol1998
Anyone know when they are planning to release the schedule?
I hope the Nevada/New Jersey online version does not suffer as a result of the emphasis on live. In fact, I hope they add even more events online and have it started long before any live event takes place and end it long after the last live event is finished.

Can't wait.
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01-04-2022 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by navyvol1998
Anyone know when they are planning to release the schedule?
No, sorry
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01-04-2022 , 07:23 PM
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No, sorry
Expect even more gold bracelets, which I totally welcome.

The 2022 WSOP could be a 3 (or even 4) month long extravaganza. Guaranteed herd immunity by then. No more covid safety measures.
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01-04-2022 , 07:28 PM
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Expect even more gold bracelets, which I totally welcome.

The 2022 WSOP could be a 3 (or even 4) month long extravaganza. Guaranteed herd immunity by then. No more covid safety measures.
Its a bold man indeed who uses the bolded word above in these unprecedented times lol
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01-04-2022 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Steer
Expect even more gold bracelets, which I totally welcome.

The 2022 WSOP could be a 3 (or even 4) month long extravaganza. Guaranteed herd immunity by then. No more covid safety measures.
Dates already announced. May 31 thru July 19. So we know it is 7 weeks. Won’t be 2 months much less 4.
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01-11-2022 , 02:30 PM
The WSOP decided they don't want my rake anymore because I'm unvaccinated. Thankfully their competitors are not as stupid.
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01-11-2022 , 03:41 PM
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The WSOP decided they don't want my rake anymore because I'm unvaccinated. Thankfully their competitors are not as stupid.
I don't think this is necessarily stupid, particularly since the ages of poker players tends to skew older than the general adult population.

The thing is, businesses are kinda screwed either way. If they require vaccines, they lose a lot of customers. However, if they don't require vaccines, they also lose a lot of customers. It seems likely that the latter group is larger than the former.

Here in Texas I saw this with masks in early 2021. Some businesses were requiring masks and half the people were outraged and were boycotting those businesses. There were other businesses not requiring masks and half the people were outraged and were boycotting those businesses.

Businesses are in a lose/lose situation on this and all your huffing and puffing won't change that.
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01-11-2022 , 04:23 PM
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The WSOP decided they don't want my rake anymore because I'm unvaccinated. Thankfully their competitors are not as stupid.
Not nearly as stupid as refusing a free vaccine, that has already been successfully administered to millions of people, for a highly contagious virus, but hey, have a good time at those non-WSOP live events featuring a fraction of the WSOP prize pools.

You might get lucky enough for us to be largely through with the pandemic by the next WSOP starting in May/June. Or you might not. Either way, you are a stupid ******* who is extremely likely to be a big fish, so, you know, gl!
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01-11-2022 , 08:13 PM
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Not nearly as stupid as refusing a free vaccine, that has already been successfully administered to millions of people, for a highly contagious virus, but hey, have a good time at those non-WSOP live events featuring a fraction of the WSOP prize pools.

You might get lucky enough for us to be largely through with the pandemic by the next WSOP starting in May/June. Or you might not. Either way, you are a stupid ******* who is extremely likely to be a big fish, so, you know, gl!


I'm vaxxed but this sentiment is pretty terrible especially since it's very debatable if the "vaccine" really works anymore.
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01-11-2022 , 08:43 PM
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I'm vaxxed but this sentiment is pretty terrible especially since it's very debatable if the "vaccine" really works anymore.
12,000 dead Americans from COVID last week, nearly all unvaccinated. This isn't a place to spread medical disinformation.

As for the 2022 Series, the hope is that the latest pandemic spike will have subsided by then, making Bally's and Paris in LV relatively safe places to congregate.
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01-11-2022 , 08:51 PM
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12,000 dead Americans from COVID last week, nearly all unvaccinated. This isn't a place to spread medical disinformation.

As for the 2022 Series, the hope is that the latest pandemic spike will have subsided by then, making Bally's and Paris in LV relatively safe places to congregate.
It's not disinformation according to the CDC director herself, who admitted it doesn't slow the spread.

At what point do we call it something besides a vaccine. Because it really isn't a vaccine by definition.
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01-11-2022 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by namisgr11
12,000 dead Americans from COVID last week, nearly all unvaccinated. This isn't a place to spread medical disinformation.

As for the 2022 Series, the hope is that the latest pandemic spike will have subsided by then, making Bally's and Paris in LV relatively safe places to congregate.
12,000 FROM Covid or WITH Covid?

Just because someone had a severe car accident/etc. and died and happen to test positive for Covid, they are counting that as a Covid death.

Let's take out all the deaths of people 75+ and people that had comorbidities, and people that died unrelated to Covid and happened to have Covid and see what the numbers are.
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01-11-2022 , 09:07 PM
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As for the 2022 Series, the hope is that the next pandemic spike will not have started by then, making Bally's and Paris in LV relatively safe places to congregate.
FYP
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01-11-2022 , 09:31 PM
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A World Series of Chess could be a lot of fun. Invite the top 20 chess players to play a two table SNG with the final final four playing chess to determine the winner.

The easy part might be finding a billionaire philanthropist (perhaps the man Isai Scheinberg himself) to produce a huge prize pool. $5M for first, $1M for second, and cash for all participants. The following year might an actual MTT with all of the world's GMs invited.

The governing body of chess is genuinely terrible and has been for nearly 100 years. I'd love to see all of the world's chess players gravitate to a much better program. The WSOC could be like the all-star break accustomed to every sport.
FIDE is amazing at funding chess you don't know ****.
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01-11-2022 , 09:37 PM
Mod note: Please keep the vaccine stuff out of here. Thank you.
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01-12-2022 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ledn
Binion's Horseshoe was where the original WSOPs were held. It was a pretty iconic Vegas brand. I have been to a number of Horseshoes travelling around and none of them are dumps, even when they are located in a bad area.
Horseshoe in Hammond is the most disgusting place I have ever been to. The smell hits you like a wall the moment you get into the building.

It's like they have a firepit of cigarettes blazing 24-7-365 for the past 30 years.

You couldnt pay me to go in there anymore, it's like going to a college party back in the 90's.

I play in the Chicago area and I tried to tolerate that place a few times
and each time I kept saying, "the need to flood this place with vinegar for a few weeks to soak up the smell"

I honestly think that is the reason no one wants to buy that place, potential investors walk in and go, "doooooood, WTF is wrong with this place?"

If you play at any other rooms in the Chicago area and say, "Horseshoe, I dont know how anyone can go there" and just stop talking,
someone will pick up the conversation and say "ya, the smell is pretty bad"

If you disagree, it's only because you also smoke and have lost any sense of smell at this point in your life
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