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11-29-2021 , 08:16 PM
"The only constant is change"

Certainties:
  • The 2022 WSOP will be at a new location: Bally's/Paris at the Las Vegas Strip
  • Aldemir will be the shortest reigning WSOP Main Event Champion in History.
  • All of the defending champions of their respective events will become the shortest reigning defending champions in their events.

Uncertainties:
  • Will the WSOP online events of wsop.com and GG Poker occur simultaneously with the WSOP live Las Vegas?
  • Will Pokergo and paid CBS still be the only ones running the live streams and official shows?
  • Mandates, lockdowns, and travel restriction possibilities?

Suggestions to the WSOP organizers:
  • Hold the super high roller events (25k buy-in or higher) at Binion's downtown with their final tables being held where the first champs won their titles. This will create a nostalgia and revisit the past as the WSOP brand moves forward into the future.
  • Hold all wsop.com online gold bracelet events (Nevada, New Jersey, Philly) before the live events begin at the Strip. And hold all GG Poker events right after all live events are 100% done.

Last edited by Max; 12-01-2021 at 04:27 AM.
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11-29-2021 , 09:09 PM
"All of the defending champions of their respective events will become the shortest reigning defending champions in their events."

Except for 10k dealers choice were there is the longest defending champion ever...

Will add to uncertainties:

Will PH win his 17th bracelet? If not will he burn down the casino?

Will Dnegs have a positive ROI?

Will M the Mouth M have a high mark-up?

POY system will change?

many other ? marks.

feel free to add

now with certainties:

Vblog of Dnegs.

PH rants

i guess some things never change...
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11-29-2021 , 10:32 PM
hot dog cost?
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11-29-2021 , 10:33 PM
"Hold the super high roller events (25k buy-in or higher) at Binion's downtown with their final tables being held where the first champs won their titles. This will create a nostalgia and revisit the past as the WSOP brand moves forward into the future."

I like this idea
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11-29-2021 , 10:52 PM
Why would Caesars be interested to hold any event at a non-Caesars property? Let alone high roller FTs that might get more media coverage than anything else except for the ME.
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11-30-2021 , 06:51 AM
Hopefully the Omnicron variant will have blown over before then, would hate for WSOP 2022 to be in jeapordy...
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11-30-2021 , 08:20 AM
will DNegs have somewhere to park his trailer?
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11-30-2021 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
Hopefully the Omnicron variant will have blown over before then, would hate for WSOP 2022 to be in jeapordy...

It’s 6 months away, about the time when Delta was the big one, so there will be another “scary” variant popping up once Omicron is old news and people are tired of talking about it.


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11-30-2021 , 11:22 AM
ok, i'll add my questions and predictions, i like this post:

1. way more tourists randomly playing in smaller buy in events, regs will love it (after they finally got over there complaints about parking ;-)
2. i'll definitely (may be) win a bracelet this year, unless the "theta-XYZ" variant stops me
3. with the number of poker vlogs popping up everywhere i guess there will be a vlog-only tournament (must at least have 1000 followers to enter), every player will at least have 2 camera teams (plus his own iphone) documenting every move they make
4. Dnegs will do 3 parallel vlogs, one for all the product placements, and one for hockey. The poker vlog will be with login, you can only watch, after you watched all the others
5. PH's outbursts will get so extreme, that nothing happens in terms of punishment again.
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11-30-2021 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
Hopefully the Omnicron variant will have blown over before then, would hate for WSOP 2022 to be in jeapordy...
I think with vaccines out, no way they cancel or delay 2022 WSOP unless the virus starts killing a lot of people (which I assume is unlikely to happen if fairly high % of people are vaccinated).
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11-30-2021 , 12:05 PM
You can bet your bottom dollar there will be a vaccine mandate.

It helps keep the riff raff away.
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11-30-2021 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by iwasbanned
You can bet your bottom dollar there will be a vaccine mandate.

It helps keep the riff raff away.
Yeah they just wait until you are outside to rob you.
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11-30-2021 , 03:02 PM
I don't know how the organizers could make it work but there will be tons of random walk ins like there never was before. Perhaps, super low buy in events with gigantic trophies for the top three finishers would be highly valued by instagramming tourists that want to brag about how they beat Las Vegas pros at their own game.

Those Victoria Secret wearing showgirls that walk the Strip for photo-ops can be brought in to pose with the top 3 massive trophy winners. I mean, really give them tourists a story to write home about.
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11-30-2021 , 03:14 PM
people gamble for lots of money in vegas, meaning, the buyins don't have to be very low, a standard 550 or 1K is def. good.

the problem that really has to be solved are the long lines for registration, because that's what only poker players take, random tourists would say "f... you" and leave.
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11-30-2021 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by iwasbanned
You can bet your bottom dollar there will be a vaccine mandate.

It helps keep the riff raff away.
Does it though? Plenty of people played this year anyways. Didn’t that Will Failla guy even make a final table?

Last edited by Max; 12-01-2021 at 04:27 AM.
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11-30-2021 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerbros_Player
people gamble for lots of money in vegas, meaning, the buyins don't have to be very low, a standard 550 or 1K is def. good.

the problem that really has to be solved are the long lines for registration, because that's what only poker players take, random tourists would say "f... you" and leave.
If they can solve the long lines issue, then they would make a killing because many of those tourists don't even know what a "rake" means. With cheap but massive trophies prominently displayed, the instagram drooling would be insane.
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11-30-2021 , 05:40 PM
Whatever you believe will happen relative to the WSOP, timex will offer a seemingly outlandish line that it will not happen. You will take the bet, and it will not happen. Timex will blink twice.
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11-30-2021 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Steer
"The only constant is change"

Suggestions to the WSOP organizers:

Hold the super high roller events (25k buy-in or higher) at Binion's downtown with their final tables being held where the first champs won their titles. This will create a nostalgia and revisit the past as the WSOP brand moves forward into the future.
Why in the world would Caesars take their marquee event and send all their high rollers to a beat up shitty casino that they don't even own. They got rid of their poker room a few years back. The banquet room might still look like the old bullpen? Where the hell would you have them play it? In the old tournament area next to the 50-80% off shirts?
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11-30-2021 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Steer
I don't know how the organizers could make it work but there will be tons of random walk ins like there never was before. Perhaps, super low buy in events with gigantic trophies for the top three finishers would be highly valued by instagramming tourists that want to brag about how they beat Las Vegas pros at their own game.
The more I think about the next WSOP, the more excited I am about this prospect. As many have noted, the Rio was extremely foot traffic unfriendly due to its location. It's very hard to accidentally find yourself there and stumble into a poker game, even though there still seemed to be some random punters playing stuff.

Going to be a different equation at Bally's/Paris. If Caesars plays their cards right, they can really use that spectacle to hook pedestrians into participating. The Binion's suggestion seems DOA, but they could organize something like this:

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From January 1949 to May 1949, Dandolos played a two-person "heads up" poker match against poker legend Johnny Moss where the two played virtually every variation of the game that existed at the time. The game, set up by Benny Binion as a tourist attraction, is widely credited as being the inspiration for the modern day World Series of Poker.
Imagine walking down the Strip and you see Ivey/Negreanu/Hellmuth/SHRB regs playing a massive cash game or high roller right out in the casino floor. That's going to be an interesting spectacle.

Even if nothing like that happens, they can at least have signs directing curious people to the action, and you have to imagine that there are going to be a lot more random shot takers trying their hand.

That really underscores the importance of a swift registration process. I had to wait in line for a full hour to get a ticket on a random Sunday evening when I arrived this year, and that will take the wind out of your sails if you're a casual just trying to get into some action quickly. It may be worth it for Caesars to invest in more space and personnel to make this jumping into events as smooth as possible.
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11-30-2021 , 11:57 PM
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I don't know how the organizers could make it work but there will be tons of random walk ins like there never was before....
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Originally Posted by DogFace
...Going to be a different equation at Bally's/Paris. If Caesars plays their cards right, they can really use that spectacle to hook pedestrians into participating...
Yea I guess I'll take the under in a massive way on your theories. You think Joe the Dentist who is in town for the Southwest Dental Association Conference over at Mandalay will walk by WSOP and just on a whim register for a 3 to 5 day tournament, or even longer? No chance. Cash games might be better I'll grant you that. But I don't see many, if at all, random strip pedestrians just hopping into full-day, multi-day events. You'll get more crowded rails from spectators is all.
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12-01-2021 , 12:36 AM
Idk about all the champs being 'shortest reigning' are you really betting against everyone who won an event winning the same event next year? Sure, they're a dog to, but with some of the smaller fields someone could go back to back to remain reigning champ
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12-01-2021 , 12:54 AM
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Yea I guess I'll take the under in a massive way on your theories. You think Joe the Dentist who is in town for the Southwest Dental Association Conference over at Mandalay will walk by WSOP and just on a whim register for a 3 to 5 day tournament, or even longer? No chance. Cash games might be better I'll grant you that. But I don't see many, if at all, random strip pedestrians just hopping into full-day, multi-day events. You'll get more crowded rails from spectators is all.
Big chunk of WSOP events, especially the massive NLHE lotteries that are most likely to appeal to the average Joe, are in the money by day two. Hugely misleading to portray them as 3-5 day affairs. Generally, making it past day one is a great problem to have since it means money in your pocket and a fun story to tell.

I see your overall point, but yes I expect exponentially more random walk-up punters than in recent years. Even if just 1% of passersby who lay eyes on the "welcome to the WSOP" signage delve into the convention center and put some money on the table, that's still going to be a much higher number than the weak gravity of the Rio, which is out on an island away from everything. People come to LV for all sorts of reasons and not all of them are bound by tight temporal/fiscal constraints. Maybe we can also agree that Vegas isn't exactly known for rational decision making or people prudently avoiding reckless spending/temptation.
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12-01-2021 , 02:22 AM
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Idk about all the champs being 'shortest reigning' are you really betting against everyone who won an event winning the same event next year? Sure, they're a dog to, but with some of the smaller fields someone could go back to back to remain reigning champ
He already lost this certainty on Adam Friedman.
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12-01-2021 , 02:31 AM
Before Circa, it wouldn't have made sense for Caesar's to buy Binion's. But Circa foot traffic is huge and Binion's can easily fill with Circa traffic spillover.

Binion's is just right across the street from Circa. Caesar's won't even have to re-brand the place. Just clean it up to its past glory, and make it even more old school Mafia period looking than it originally looked decades ago, like being inside the Godfather movies.
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12-01-2021 , 03:10 AM
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... imagine that there are going to be a lot more random shot takers...
A real worry these days

While visible WSOP/Rio security was same this year as past years, I felt more aware that things could get ugly. At the Deepstack (bracelet event) and the Mini Main, there were a couple of chatty Texans at my starting table. Once the initial conversation about where is everyone from and rightness/wrongness of vaccines/masks was over, I asked if either of them was carrying. Stony silence.

I admit to being surprised that to date no one has reacted to a bad beat in an extreme manner at the WSOP or other large series, especially given the easy access to alcohol.
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