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06-23-2022 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
showing hole cards before anyone is all-in coupled with being too excited to read the board suggests to me that they're not very experienced players, which i'd interpret as good value.

ivey would never do any of those things in this situation. i'd like to hear more about him folding the nuts though! that i believe. would you please link me to the clip if you're not too upset at me? thanks.
He’s referring to this hand





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"...It was a mistake me not betting a turn. And when you make a mistake like that at that stage of a tournament, you're automatically irritated. And once the ace hit, I realized I lost. I didn't double-check my cards because of that, because I was frustrated I didn't bet the turn. Once the ace hit, I knew I lost the hand in my mind. And I didn't look at my cards. This is an error that people make all the time... ...And I've done this several times. This is just the first time it's ever been caught on TV..."
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06-23-2022 , 08:09 PM
Always fascinating to see semi-random names pop up in a $250k.

I assume some of these people are just IRL super rich, but can't say I have ever heard of Liron Shimon, Nilesh Patel, or Steven Veneziano.

I remember Brandon Steven from a deep WSOP run, but he's not exactly a name I'd expect to see in a $250k event.

That's a staggering amount of $$$ to spend on a poker tournament.
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06-23-2022 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
Always fascinating to see semi-random names pop up in a $250k.

I assume some of these people are just IRL super rich, but can't say I have ever heard of Liron Shimon, Nilesh Patel, or Steven Veneziano.

I remember Brandon Steven from a deep WSOP run, but he's not exactly a name I'd expect to see in a $250k event.

That's a staggering amount of $$$ to spend on a poker tournament.
Brandon Steven played the 1M One Drops and was on High Stakes Poker.
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06-23-2022 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace

That's a staggering amount of $$$ to spend on a poker tournament.
I never heard of the players you mentioned. As for the buy, it is hard to realize that $250K is absolutely meaningless to some people. To them, that buy-in is less stressful than a $250 is to me. LOL.
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06-23-2022 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Siberian13
He’s referring to this hand

[.youtube]b6bIx76LJo8[/youtube]



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"...It was a mistake me not betting a turn. And when you make a mistake like that at that stage of a tournament, you're automatically irritated. And once the ace hit, I realized I lost. I didn't double-check my cards because of that, because I was frustrated I didn't bet the turn. Once the ace hit, I knew I lost the hand in my mind. And I didn't look at my cards. This is an error that people make all the time... ...And I've done this several times. This is just the first time it's ever been caught on TV..."
that's the hand that came to mind but it can't be the one the really upset guy was referring to! he folded the 10th nuts in a checked down pot. that's hardly worth mentioning in the same breath as the mistakes in the hand i scoffed at.

maybe the really upset guy was the guy in the clip who misread the board and thought he won...

Brandon Steven is a poker legend in the making, obviously.

is anyone watching Event #44 $10K H.O.R.S.E. Championship on PokerGo?
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06-23-2022 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
the number of people that play poker at least semi-regularly that can lose $1mm in a session and shrug it off is in the hundreds. you can't fathom someone being much richer than you, i suppose? have you not followed the high stakes poker scene at all? pots being played are sometimes upwards of $10mm.

i thought it was cute that you thought you could smell COVID, fwiw.

sincerely, a f-n liar.

if DN pays for his buy-ins at the WSOP or not seems irrelevant. either he's paid enough to be able to sustain the high dollar amount swings of high rollers without a care or his sponsors pay for them. same ****, different name.
I know someone who just got covid last week from poker in Vegas for the 2nd time. He did not get tested, but says for sure he has it again because when he takes a dump he says it is the nasties smell you ever could smell. So YES, covid does have a smell.
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06-23-2022 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by likes
What an asshat characterization of "doesn't know how to read the board." He was looking for a spade. He saw a spade. Anyone who has ever played a flop game has had the experience of seeing that suit, feeling elated, then deflated when they realize the other guy made a boat. If it's never happened to you, you haven't played much poker. Ivey folded the nuts once. Maybe it's good value to play against him, too.
this. he's thinking he has to fade the wrap/trips or hit a flush to end it and his opponent runners a boat which is easy to miss for a second.
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06-23-2022 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
Always fascinating to see semi-random names pop up in a $250k.

I assume some of these people are just IRL super rich, but can't say I have ever heard of Liron Shimon, Nilesh Patel, or Steven Veneziano.

I remember Brandon Steven from a deep WSOP run, but he's not exactly a name I'd expect to see in a $250k event.

That's a staggering amount of $$$ to spend on a poker tournament.
Pretty sure Stevens has been playing the biggest cash games at least in the united states for over a decade, al decarolis has probably been playing the biggest cash games for 3 or 4 decades. Like someone else said, sure there are a handful of guys or Kathy Lehne, or more that treat a 250k as far less pressure than a lot of people would treat a $250 buyin. I think the truly fascinating part is seeing which pros are playing. You see guys like Robl, Koon, Seiver, Bonomo, and Dan Smith who seem to have won the financial long game of poker more than anyone else. You see the guys that people truly think are the best tourney players in the world whether they have killer results or not like chewy, foxen, davies, vogelsang, petrangelo, etc.

And then unfortunately you see what cheating really has done to benefit guys. Not only did they make a ton of money cheating, but they also got so good because the cheating was a constant positive reinforcement of what to do in every difficult decision, or where to come up with plays that only a computer could find. I think that is what is often overlooked. It's not just the pure dollar amount stolen, but it's also the knowledge gained while cheating.
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06-23-2022 , 11:55 PM
Brandon appears to be super wealthy. He owns a bunch of car dealerships, health clubs and a minor league hockey team.

He's not really an unusual name to see in the high rollers. I'm pretty sure he played at least one of the $1 million one drop tourneys.

The 250k could see quite a relatively big field. I think the wealthy rec turnout looks pretty good.
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06-24-2022 , 12:15 AM
He used to play in kansas city from time to time, same with the wolfpack. I don't know if he's made a big profit from poker but he's not a fish in the sense of someone like guy or celine dions husband, by kansas standards he's a strong thinking player with a tough table presence. His poker activities grew with his business and although I dont think a big chunk of his wealth came from poker those two activities don't strike me as entirely unrelated in his case. He's a real player and the type of person who, were he to play with the crowd from 30-40 years ago, might be written about in an "admirable strong businessman poker player" way like those guys from texas.

But now it's python programmers all the way down. : )
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06-24-2022 , 12:24 AM
Seth Davies will win the 250k, he is a beast. On hendon 28th on the All Time list for US and his numbers on sharkscope for WSOP online are insane.

He is in 6th now.

Just 1 or 2 nights ago he played in a 2k and a 1k event online and final tabled both, winning the 2k.
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06-24-2022 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
showing hole cards before anyone is all-in coupled with being too excited to read the board suggests to me that they're not very experienced players, which i'd interpret as good value.

ivey would never do any of those things in this situation. i'd like to hear more about him folding the nuts though! that i believe. would you please link me to the clip if you're not too upset at me? thanks.
Not the nuts, just the best hand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6bIx76LJo8
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06-24-2022 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Seth Davies will win the 250k, he is a beast.
Seth Davies might very well cash in the $250k, but he will NOT be winning it.
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06-24-2022 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by chzbrglr
Seth Davies might very well cash in the $250k, but he will NOT be winning it.
I agree. No way that guys winning.
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06-24-2022 , 01:09 AM
DNegs super short stack in $250K. Assume he is on first bullet. Correct me if I am wrong, but the only bullet that counts for his backers is the first and he basically has been pissing first bullets totally away in rebuy tournaments. Just another reason I hate rebuys and super later reg. Back in the day, almost all tournaments were freeze outs. They didn't even invent that term until every tournament became rebuy and now they promote it as a great "new" thing. Plus hours long late reg just sucks. Last tourney I was in I was busted by a guy who came to table 8 hours after it started and we were already almost at the bubble. TBH, he tilted me and I made a major mistake, so 100% my fault. I was also tired after playing all day. No excuse, but just rubbed me the wrong way. Unfortunately, I am a rec with a roll to buy-in once. A re-buy is not even a consideration for me. And since I like to play, I don't late reg more than a level or two. And I usually don't even do that. Rebuys and late reg have decimated winning ability for recs like me. Back in the day, late reg online was an hour. My, things have changed. I am well aware I either go with it or don't play and I play way less than in the past.
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06-24-2022 , 01:15 AM
Negreanu busted and will rebuy.
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06-24-2022 , 01:17 AM
Crazy they can't find a way to televise day one or two of this thing..
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06-24-2022 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sickhuman
Crazy they can't find a way to televise day one or two of this thing..
It's Poker Go, par for the course.
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06-24-2022 , 02:07 AM
At the 2022 wsop, an all time classic is in the making. Over 40 players registered in the $250,000 buy in super high roller event, with more to come as registration does not close until the start of day 2. Phil Ivey and Aleksejs Ponakovs, the winner and runner up of the $100,000 high roller event sit with large chip stacks, currently in 3rd and 4th overall. in the lead famed competitor Nick Petrangelo with over 5 million in chips currently. In contention are a wide swath of pokers elite; poker hall of famer Daniel Negreanu, Bryn Kenny and Justin Bonomo- Two of the leading cash prize winners in Poker Tournament history, defending world champion Koray Aldemir, Famed online legend Andrew Robl, businessman Brandon Steven, and businesswoman Kathy Lehne amongst many other well regarded high stakes gamblers each competing at the highest level for a growing prize pool well over 10 million dollars. Who will win this coveted Super High Roller World Series of Poker bracelet?
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06-24-2022 , 02:15 AM
Not a single mention of Seth Davies.
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06-24-2022 , 02:42 AM
Adrian Mateos opened to 45,000 in early position and Ali Imsirovic defended from the big blind. The flop came {k-Hearts}{7-Spades}{2-Diamonds} and Imsirovic check-called a bet of 30,000 from Mateos.

The {6-Spades} landed on the turn and Imsirovic started with another check. Mateos threw in a bet of 115,000 and Imsirovic check-raised to 405,000. Mateos just called and the {7-Hearts} paired the board on the river.

Imsirovic used one of his time banks before ripping all in for around 1,800,000. Mateos snapped him off and Imsirovic tabled {7-Diamonds}{6-Hearts} for a full house. However, Mateos held {k-Clubs}{k-Diamonds} for a bigger full house and Imsirovic was sent to the rail.

Pleasing
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06-24-2022 , 03:26 AM

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06-24-2022 , 03:27 AM
PokerGO having the monopoly on this is really quite infuriating. The only people who would subscribe are die hard poker fans and people already familiar with the game. I mean I’ve been playing poker for 20 years and I don’t even have an active sub, I have done and will again likely just for this because there’s no other way of watching.

But in order to get more eyes on poker surely a 250k at the wsop or at least the ME should be on espn and playing in sports bars everywhere. Especially when they’re deep. Maybe this is the plan for the ME but I haven’t read it anywhere.

There’s no other way to make a poker boom without it being in households and bars like it used to be.
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06-24-2022 , 03:31 AM
Agreed, I’ve subscribed for a month before, and I potentially would again, but it is painful for me to give Cary Katz a cent.

Triton is better and free anyway, but it does suck for the WSOP.
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06-24-2022 , 04:03 AM
Yep. Poker going off of ESPN is pretty damaging for it on the mainstream level.
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