This is a true fact. I met a guy who consistently sattys in (full ride) to EPT events - 100% strike rate in last 24 months. Maybe variance.

Yes its possible.

Oh totally.

definitely!

@Snocat1970

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I couldnt do it if I had to pay for rooms and food.

Maybe if your casino ran a super soft $160 daily but i'm not even sure my math is right.

I think that it depends a bit on your standard of living. Pros like Ari Engel get tremendous value out of frequent flier programs and hotel comps. As good as you might be at the pure poker of it all, you've just got to do your best to live well within your means and not let overhead costs skyrocket. Do that and while still not easy, it becomes much more of a possibility to make a living like this if you're good enough and run well enough at the tables.

This post had me really curious today.

I went ahead and created a "fictional character" so that I could evaluate the numbers and determine the possibility.

The character created was given some living expenses and a 20k bankroll. I also applied BRM and variance into the equation to determine the income of the live MTT pro.

Read it.

Yea because getting rid of mtts will ever happen. I'm sure a large % of the poker population play poker just for the mtts and the lure of a big score. Doubt they care that its a losing proposition.

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Chris 'jesus' Ferguson

What? MTT variance is probably one of the biggest contributors to the poker economy.

If you are exclusively grinding live MTTs, I would imagine no.

If you combine live MTTs with staking, live cash grinding, and swapping well on the MTTs you do play, I think you could do it. That takes a ton of different skill sets and I don't think many people are capable of it though.

this post you did can't even be close t rational relative to the can you make it question. A. NO ONE ON the planet can ever sustain traveling around making a living from poker off a 20k roll with 200 set aside for travel expenses. U realize main events are MIN 1100 plus plane tickets etc are 200 min themselves? Or do you think someone is going to exclusively grind vegas for a living cause that makes it even harder to do.

I think your post really summarizes how thin people think about tourneys and what comes with them when you're traveling for a while without a score. You're just way low on your estimate costs and roll needed. For someone that has played almost every main event series on the east coast of US over past 2 years I can tell you from experience that if you don't have at least 150-200k and people buying some pieces of you in the big ones… without a top 3 finish right away you're going to be down a lot of money.

Where do you sleep and what do you eat? Or do you just neither sleep nor eat?

possible, but not very likely

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I get free room and food nearly everywhere I go.

How much does the free rooms would cost you per year on average if you had to pay for it yourself? I imagine its in the mid 5 figures at the absolute minimum since i assume everytime you go somewhere you stay for at least 5 days?


Im bit confused but if you had to pay for food yourself, you wouldn't be able to do this? This is b/c food is overpriced at every place you go to right? Such as each meal would cost you $10+ every meal minimum? Also since you live in vegas... how many months do you grind in vegas a year out of the 12 months? I assume you live at your apartment and not at the hotels when in vegas correct and you just drive back home? Also, on general when you go to florida or the other states, how many days on average do you stay there before you leave?


Is there a reason you don't just play live cash in vegas as oppose to traveling the circuit and playing all these events?

i am a Robot Professional Poker Player
but i can think
my only weakpoint is hungry and sleepy

I usually stay 3-7 days at any venue. I rarely pay for anything other than airfare, car rental and entry fees.

Im in vegas about half the year. 2 months during wsop and scattered the rest of the year.

Well that's what I call living!

And my sister pays all of those. I am glad someone in our family has a day job.

You have to supliment it with cash games. Even if you just break even playing cash. Almost every casino has "freerolls" that are filled by the cash regs. You qualify by getting hours.

If you are in a casino with a lot of retired low level limit players, that's gonna be a lot of your opponents in that freeroll. Cash in that a couple times a year, makes up for a lot of cash session losses. Where I play, these are the largest prize pool tournaments available.

Part time, low level cash and tournament player, like most regs ... you don't make much. Maybe you have a big score, like a $1k cash session, or a 5k tournament win, but your edge, probably isn't what you think it is.

Every room is different. So, if you can learn who the regs are, they know you too. Your edge is diminished unless you can really play a table image. So, what you really need to do, is travel, from one city to the next, so nobody can adapt to your play, and just crush ... but that takes a lot of effort, and money to cover gas, hotels, etc.

It's not for everybody. I can't do it full time and still make a profit, and I have been playing poker since I was a kid, which was a long time ago. Yeah, I have played 5 card draw, live, in a casino.

It's possible, with a roll ... but you gotta play cash.

lmao yea break even so you can grind those free rolls for nickels

Close to perfect and honest answer to The Question !
Thanks Sir.