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Lets say you get 35$ per hour ( which is a hourly that only really good players achieve). For 100k a year that is 8h/day, everyday! Now think about vacation, illness etc etc. So you prolly have to count 10-12h grind for the year with 1 or 2 month off. The rest of your time you sit in a casino playing a cardgame. Is that really what u wanna do with your life?

Not that I want to sit in a casino 10 hours a day, but how is that any different than spending all of your time at a job you hate?

And $35/hour is not what really good players achieve lol

I don't understand why ppl often think that the only alternative to poker is a 9-5 job that you hate. Both options would be a waste of your lifetime.

For 2/5 live 35$/h is a very good hourly. And with really good i dont mean the worldclass / crushers .

That is messed up. I always take away their shoes to keep them cooking in the kitchen.

I would think most people hate their 9-5 and that most people would hate being in a casino for 50+ hours a week.

Obviously that's not always the case, but it seems to be the norm.

I always thought the reason they have smaller feet is so they can stand closer to the stove???

i made 50k last year playing bovada 100nlzone 1 tabling like 6 hours a day. some of you are on drugs. also i love in philly, the 5th largest market in the country. 6% of our population clears 100k, avg income is 42k. again, some of you are delusional.

also philly live poker scene is BOOMING. go to parx on any night

poker is fun

Depends on where you play, the type of players and the buy ins for the games. I played 2/5 for a year with deep max buyins and 300 minimum buy ins. Played 1300 hours of 2/5 nlhe that year with an hourly of $67 before moving up and having to play private games and travel to other casinos because of lack of bigger games. And I don't fall into the world class category but definitely better then the "good regs". But if you play somewhere with a tougher field and especially with $100-$500 buy ins then it makes it a lot harder to earn near the $50 or higher hourly.

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I think it would be draining to play every day for 10 hours whether you're comparing it to a crappy job or a good one no matter how profitable you are on the felt.

Don't get me wrong I love playing 10 hour sessions and would play more or them if I could but I have a full time job. I look forward to playing every week but knowing all the full time regs well in my games you really see where the term 'grind' comes from.

I'm pretty sure I couldn't do it full time from an emotional perspective even though I have a good winrate and love playing as much as anyone possibly could.

I'm convinced it would kill the great passion I have for the game which I'm sure is an issue most full time grinders have to deal with.

I would never play 10 hours everyday. To me that is the freedom poker provides me. I average about 1400 hours a year. I take off about 10 weeks a year and play around 34 hours a week the other weeks. Limit my sessions to around 6.5 hours unless it is just too good of a game to quit. Otherwise I quit once I hit 6.5 hours whether I'm up or down. Too many people think they have to win every session and try to get even or up no matter the hours.. But they will never last long term

I agree playing 10 hours/day and never taking time would be grueling and I would probably lose my passion as well. As it is I enjoy playing a game that provides me good money to go along with my passive income as well as a lot of freedom.

How does a question with such a simple answer turn into such a long thread?

Q) Why would anyone start taking poker seriously in 2016?

A) Competition has gotten tough in 2016. You have to take it seriously if you want to succeed.

Gotta admit you've been killing it lately. Lame dodge on his part, guess he doesn't want to "give away secrets".

Rather than continuing down Dick St. I'll just reiterate that there's probably no one currently playing who should be from an economic standpoint and the reason is opportunity cost. It's really tough to pull yourself away though and some guys truly love it, so I understand why they don't quit but they're probably ultimately doing themselves and the world a disservice.

Dudes saying "just work harder" with 2014+ reg dates are entertainment but with 2012 or sooner reg dates, some sparring is in order. I can't claim to know everyone's twoplustwo metagame but posting about how inefficient one market is to a bunch of people with a track record of raping similar markets into a negative sum coma isn't a great posting strat.

Stack size shouldn't matter *. Our cbet size does matter (barely because he XRed), I failed to specify that, good catch. (average is about .75P give or take a few points)

*Edit: assuming we cover his pot sized bet. Good points though.

How much of the money that "grinders" make is coming from the full time element though? At least playing on a fairly geographically limited website I get the feeling that I'm printing money at weekends and late evenings, and just pushing money around with people similar to myself at off-peak times. So why play full time?

Yea...SCOOP broke all the records this year.

A lot of donks in this thread.

Excellent news!

Lets see here, you have;

# Played poker professionally for 11 years, so zero contribution to society. (Actually worse than zero, just a leach really)

# Claims they “file taxes as a poker pro” .... from playing on illegal sites. Uh huh, you must have a good accountant

# Told us you are at home today to take care of your 2 daughters, and are planning to use that time to gamble on the internet (Father of the year material right there)

So yeah....when a lowlife like you does a character assessment on me, Im actually really REALLY hoping for bad result. DUCY

Nobody contributes anything on an infinite timeline...

It's only a matter of time before talking monkeys go extinct. So, lighten up on the pompous BS. You're just as worthless as anyone doucher.

Until human beings can definitely lock down their existance for all eternity we're all failures and suck at life.

you write like a 9 year old

You are on a poker forum calling someone who plays poker for a living a leach on society... Hmm going to be really popular around here.

It's not illegal to play on poker sites and makes absolutely perfect sense to file your taxes on your winnings.

Not sure where someone gets off judging someone as a father based on them playing poker on the computer while home with the kids. Not any different then anyone else having the ability to work from home.

Oh and with posts like your previous one, you are really making his point for him when he calls you a douche.