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Why professionnal Poker does not exist anymore ? (the shady truth of Poker with a solution) Why professionnal Poker does not exist anymore ? (the shady truth of Poker with a solution)

04-18-2022 , 11:49 PM
Because experience mean a lot and some of you dout, so here my small history.

First tournament, first win. (I won every all-in shortstack until the end. First Poker lesson, everyone can win a tournament)
Next day, to late for the tournament, I took a sit in cash game.
I didn't spot the sucker the first half hour, so I was it for the next hour (second lesson)
Except high-rollers, from amateur to underground and main events, I have played in every "class".
When Elky was running to be the FIRST supernova elite, I was one of the grinder taking his loss in sng 315$.
When Wsop decided to create a 1k event, I was happy, until they decided to give it the same structure as a regular $50 tournament.
And since then, I'm still shocked that everyone is cool with it...
I have saw every fails. Poker battle, ISPT, EPIC POKER LEAGUE, FULLTILT, ULTIMATE BET, the 2 federations and so many........
I have played against many top players in many countries. (cash-game and tournaments)

At a moment I have decide to do a break. I came back for the EPT deauville.
Cards f... me. (last Poker lessons, I could be the best player, I could never win a main)
I was OWNING my table (the second and the 5th or 6th of this Main event can confirm)
I throw aspirin to one of them, I didn't know we was on streaming live. It get me in a Poker reality tv-show after.
I was always curious to see the underground of a tv show and it was the last opportunity for me to get a sponsor (it was before the trend of influencers/coaches). It was cool until I have learned it was 5 minutes rounds...
Out the first, some critics... So I have offered anyone to head's up live. But no anwser.

I don't want to live in Vegas or Macau, and I really like playing live more than online. Actually making a living from Poker live (tournaments or cash-game) in europe is almost impossible and it should not be. (yes it make me a boomer saying that things was better before but they was and we have to make a come back on many things)

Since i discover poker as kid, i dream of a tournament played in every casinos all around he world.
Since i discover poker as adult, i was always thinking about the most technical structure. Offering the most control possible and reducing luck to the minimum.
And since I discovered that the most important thing is not my legitimacy, but to achieve it.
I am ready to spend all my time, to give all the work necessary to make it happen.

I know that this first letter is too long. I am waiting for feedback this week and saturday I will post a shorter version.

Thanks for your time.

Peace&Love&Grind
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04-19-2022 , 01:54 AM
David Thanks a lot for your positive comment, it help me a lot.
To compare it, will be a little like the ISPT wembley. Except instead of players playing the first round on a tablet in the stands (as it should have been at the start) and only few rooms involved. The purpose is to have sat&qualif played in "every" rooms (live and online) and the rounds shootout are played in public place. Play in public place why? Because the main reason rooms do not offer wsop satellites is than no one want to send customers to a competitor.
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04-19-2022 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Millionbypoker
David Thanks a lot for your positive comment, it help me a lot.
To compare it, will be a little like the ISPT wembley. Except instead of players playing the first round on a tablet in the stands (as it should have been at the start) and only few rooms involved. The purpose is to have sat&qualif played in "every" rooms (live and online) and the rounds shootout are played in public place. Play in public place why? Because the main reason rooms do not offer wsop satellites is than no one want to send customers to a competitor.

The main reason rooms don’t run satellites is that they don’t want the money leaving the room.

You qualify just 20 people to your event and that is 200,000 dollars leaving your customers pockets and going to the next level of the shootout. That hurts your business, big time.
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04-19-2022 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by David Lyons
The main reason rooms don’t run satellites is that they don’t want the money leaving the room.

You qualify just 20 people to your event and that is 200,000 dollars leaving your customers pockets and going to the next level of the shootout. That hurts your business, big time.
Sorry I may have made a mistake but that's exactly what I meant...
"no one want to send customers to a competitor"

And in my case, having the shootout round played in public place, no money goes in an other room.
All the money stay in players pocket.

Actually by having each room acting alone and no grid, actually more than 90% of Poker money goes into tax&fees every year.
My purpose is too have a more efficient ecosystem.
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04-19-2022 , 11:04 AM
Now on the mtt live scene. Grinders need a big win every decade to turn a profit.
With my payout, with a 30% itm and no final table, most grinders would make a profit in the first year.

Most of us forget why we started poker and why it got such a global buzz...
3 main reasons:
-it is the easiest competition to access.
-it is the shortest and easiest way to be a millionaire.
-we love this game because we can have control, skill can make the difference.

I have stopped to play tournaments because there was no million win by skill, only big money win by gamble.
And that's weird, because after I quit, most pros, teams and companies did the same...
And I'm sure that's no coincidence...
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04-19-2022 , 11:47 AM
To anyone who thinks it's because I was losing money or not being good enough...
In fact, even if it did, it wouldn't change anything.

We can give poker a new global buzz.
We can have a better first payout. (at least in one Poker Tour...)
We can have a poker grid.
We can have the most technical structure.
We can unite all the rooms to create at least once a year, the biggest tournament.
We can have a 1 million per year first prize. (in 7 days for a 99$ buy-in)

What is the point that would make you most want to join the project ?

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04-19-2022 , 12:34 PM
Now the biggest problem for live rooms is to compete with online offers.
Between a 50$buy-in play live for a 500$ first place and play online seat at home for 10k$....
And that as many players as possible are profitable. Or having a HUGE turn-over...
If before this project was impossible because most rooms was trying to create their own tour.
Now the commercial "war" is over.
It's time to act as one. (Like majority of other sports and games...)
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04-19-2022 , 10:17 PM
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
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04-20-2022 , 01:01 AM
It is... But I am not under coke son. I am just HIP... (google is your friend for the meaning... or to check if european have the % tax in cash game and no big game because of it, if live tournament players don't need a big win every decade to be profitable, if the tournament profits ranking of wpt have disappear because most players are loosers , if every players have the same rights, same taxs than in US...)

Before to judge someone, be sure is wrong.

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04-20-2022 , 01:58 AM
It's all coming together... OP is a Human Interface Parser. Or maybe a Hrvatski Istinski Preporod. Or maybe a Hispanic in Philanthropy
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04-20-2022 , 02:13 AM
I know my approach may not be the best. that only the European market suffers and that those for whom everything is going well, do not care about others.
But my aim is not only to save the European market.

Having a global competition, a grid, the million for life (no more broke champions), a union between all the actors (rooms and players, live and online) would be great for poker and would give it a second buzz.

I suspect that I should have acted more professionally, not letting you know who was behind it. If this project was coming from an other Poker Tour, most of you would be behind them (even if there are recreational players and just business people)
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04-20-2022 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by James C K
It's all coming together... OP is a Human Interface Parser. Or maybe a Hrvatski Istinski Preporod. Or maybe a Hispanic in Philanthropy
Now it's a little more Human In Pain... But that's fine... I have prepared myself to be reject at first... (most of great idea struggle at the beginning...) and it's a totally new point of view...

In 50 years, NOBODY has ever thought of associating the % itm career with the first payout.
The mtts live used to obtain profitability with a victory.
But with the changes in payouts, the multiplication of offers, this is no longer the case.

Why most of the team and independents have disappear the last decade ? Because now the circuit is not profitable at all...

Only sponsored, coachs, richs and some fews exception have survive the last decade.
Why most grinders surviving the first decade of this millenium have stopped ??????

Even if there are more grinders mid stakes online and live in US, than before. The mtt scene is going down and public&media stop following it because we do not have millionnaire by poker anymore. Just rich people gambling big money with poker. (once again I m not talking about the american cash-game or the Online mtt scene....)

Btw you can joke on me and even troll me if it make you feel better.

Peace&Love&Grind
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04-20-2022 , 05:58 AM
Rob yong just try to lunch a global community yesterday.
He don't contact me and already invest for a website.
I suppose it's a coincidence...
To let you know, we are not working together now.
(15 years of waiting and work, and maybe f... by karma or one of my idol...fml)
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04-20-2022 , 06:25 AM
"Adderall doesnt make you write good, it just makes you write a lot".
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04-20-2022 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JERRYJ0NES
"Adderall doesnt make you write good, it just makes you write a lot".
Being dismissive doesn't make you smarter or happier.

Continue to insult the form, only the substance matters.

But if this behavior makes you happy on the moment, send me all you got !!!!!! (Honestly no worry, if its help you I am glad and I don't care...)

I prefer to be hated than be to a hater.

Have a nice day...

Peace&Love&Grind
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04-22-2022 , 01:42 AM
OP's manifesto is the kind of thing sociopaths put online before doing a mass killing.

Get help soon, OP.
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04-22-2022 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bawookles
OP's manifesto is the kind of thing sociopaths put online before doing a mass killing.

Get help soon, OP.
Since 15 years I am waiting someone else to do it.
Despite all the alarming signs (disappearance of teams and independent players, most of the businesses created in the last decade have closed... No tournament live profits ranking anymore because 99.99% are losers on long term.)

Despite all the previous scandals, which should serve as lessons for us.
How many cheat scandals? almost once a year...
How many blacklisted or guilty front of the justice? none.

Since 20 years there's a commercial "war" with no winner.
We are all too selfish, to even take care of our own economy.

And yes because I am passionate. Because I know that poker tournaments could become profitable for most good players, simply by rethinking a 50-year-old system, which has only been modified since by reacrative player businessmen. It touches me deeply.

I don't do it to try to be someone body. I try to do it because Poker need it.

If I want to create a federation, it's not to be the president of poker. It's because no private company should own and use a world championship to promote its own business and make profits. And if now Poker have 2 federation (it's not wsop and wpt, there are private companies) and NO official world champion, and If other sports like boxe have many federations and many officials world champ.

Poker deserve a global competition available to every players, every rooms, to declare the first official world champion of poker.

You think what you want. it doesn't change reality :
-After 40 years of constant evolution, the Main Event has been stagnating for a decade now.
-Poker have no official world champion.
-Tournament live scene not produce millionnaires anymore like 20 years ago, just broke people and tv-stars/influencers/coachs.
-We can wait an other 50 years, or following my goal.

Think what you want about me, the most important is my act.
And for the moment I am the only one with a REAL plan for Poker, different than selling you NFT or cryto scam...

Peace&Love&Grind
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04-22-2022 , 05:11 AM
Realise that I want the best for Poker. The most technical structure, the best payouts, the best product for every players&rooms.

You dont even try to debate with me on how to improve our system.

You only judge my person... (most of you critics without having read...)
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04-22-2022 , 05:29 AM
I don't wanted to say it but f... off...

Actual Live Poker God, who decide for our championship,have 1 itm 1016$, as business manager -70M€ to take 0% of a 99M€ national market.

Actual Online Poker God, have started the business by banning grinders trying to cash out (just check here all the stories...................)

I have more experience, more background, than all this Poker managers UNITED.

I want to stop having Poker dying. They just want to squeeze as much money out of you as possible.

And you are judging me...

(I know that having new point of view, think by myself, make me crazy for many of you. But just realise that if you love Poker, if you know Poker, I am not the one you should judge !)
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04-22-2022 , 06:17 AM
And if you find my post too long, it's simply because I'm aware that it may not happen in my lifetime.
Achieving peace between tournament and cash game players, live and online, USA and the rest of the world, all rooms, may take time.
So even if I can't do it, with this simple letter, anyone can do it, all the information is there.
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04-22-2022 , 07:10 AM
You should team up with EdenRocks to make the ultimate nonsense ramble
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04-22-2022 , 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Noobtard
You should team up with EdenRocks to make the ultimate nonsense ramble
In my opinion, you should focus on your person, your happiness.
Rather than using sacarsm to vent...
Trying to make yourself interesting for the wrong reasons doesn't work.

If you have no comment on the project, please don't be stupid to comment my person. (I am not an influencer, I am not the subject.)

Peace&Love&Grind
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04-23-2022 , 07:37 AM
Wow that was quite a read , what a beautiful mind OP has.
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04-23-2022 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PLOs
Wow that was quite a read , what a beautiful mind OP has.
Thank's. I try to be a good person. (not only for me or my entourage)

What do you think about the Million for life first prize ?

About the shootout structure ?

About the payout offering short term profits ?

About a global competition, owned by a federation offering Poker its first official world champ ?
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04-24-2022 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Millionbypoker
Poker history : ...
I legit started to read this

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