Bang bang lol

I agree with almost every single one of your posts, however no amount of rational thinking and problem solving will convince these guys... because they're degens first and will go to any lengths to justify poker as a career.

^Extremely inspiring. A lot of this thread has been filled with negativity so it's nice to see something positive like that.

Hm so my name came up in this thread...

Poker is tough to stick with. On the surface it seems like normal job guy Bob works 40 hours a week while poker guy Joe plays 20 hours. However Joe requires being mentally focused for all of those hours (especially online), and also studies 10 more on top of that. Meanwhile Bob might only actually do like 5 hours of actual work and spend the rest of his time laughing with his coworkers while watching videos of cats push various objects off high places.

I think the biggest disagreement in this thread revolves around whether you'd rather be Joe or Bob and I think personal life experiences plays a large role here. For example, those who have never had a career they truly loved and view a job as a merely a tool to feed their loved ones, they may think being Bob is a no-brainer. Neither one is right or wrong.

One thing I think both sides can agree on is that society as a whole shouldn't be encouraging the innocent youth to pursue poker careers over advancing technology/solving socioeconomic problems/etc. So, in light of this, I think it's a good thing for all parties involved that making a living off poker isn't as easy as it used to be.

-If you love poker but aren't good at it, you don't play poker for a living.
-If you are good at poker but don't love it, you don't play poker for a living.
-If you both love and are good at poker, then you have it as an option until either one of those stops being true.

Great point ...Both sides should agree, expect the “work harder” side do not

I know it seems I razz pros non stop but I do have an certain empathy. I was lucky I discovered poker a bit too late (2006) and I was a bit more mature /had business experience. So I saw poker for what it was and never got too serious

If I had found it in 1999 like I so easily could have (hey man. Ask Jeeves about poker one time) ...my life would have taken a very different path and I would have been postulating away just like these immature deluded fools who are essentially wrecking their lives by dedicating some of the best parts of it to a stupid card game

Aesahs point. To the guys reading these threads dreaming they can make it. Forget it. It’s not worth it. You missed the 2002 boat. The pro poker brigade can win at poker but most of them are absolute garbage human beings and losers at life. Go check the state of the regs at your LC if you need further proof

News is not all bad though. Play part time. It’s a great hobby to have, if u are single at least

On the flip side, you sound like a fantastic human being and a winner at life. Can you tell me more about yourself and how I can be like you?

Sad isn’t it :/ It’s immaturity mostly. There’s almost no good endings. As an aside even if successful AND quitting well AND good money management I’m pretty convinced massive volume is very poor for your mental health #cumicon

Black Friday was likely a very good thing for quality of life equity for tens of thousands of young Americans

Sorry that hurt your feelings Aesah. What do you see when you look at reg pros ?

A poker pro's boss is one of the worst in the world. A real slave driver, no doubt about it.

The rhetoric of “kissing ass /working for the man / slave drivers” is utter bull****

How about working for great people who treat their employees well?
How about going on conferences on exotic locations and learning a tonne and having a great time?
How about banging a couple of H2D co workers /clients and having a great relationship with one?
How about developing real sales and marketing skills which sets you up to form your own company (extremely satisfying)

Might not all work out just like that. But if you have communication skills a brain and are willing to work....this is all much closer to normal experiences in the business world than the pathetic excuses and disdain we get from poker pros about the real world options.

The problem with corporate life isn’t the companies. Its because u are impatient and entitled. Probably bitter about hierarchy and don’t like being instructed ...then you are exposed by the pure meritocracy of the business world

“To get what you want. Help other people get what they want”

So basically Bumpnrun couldn't win at poker and now any long time profitable player is a garbage human being and w/e else. Uhu

Out of my poker acquaintances that have been playing for a long time I cant think of any of them who only plays poker and none of them are garbage human beings.

I do, however, agree with the poker player hater that its a good thing that a career in the game isn't as lucrative as before and young people will look more worthwhile careers.

Get off your high horse though....

Where did you read that in his post?

Ah. The old “u must suck” fallback. Not good reading btw. Im a long term profitable player. We are taking about poker exclusively as a career so your poker playing buddies are not part of the discussion.

I can’t win online now. But I play maybe once a week on my phone. Probably could win if I went back to the PC and got into HUDs and solvers and stolen HHs and scripts and all the other BS pro poker players have ruined the games with

Nowhere. He elected to leave out the cold hard realities of high volume poker playing in favour of embellishing his lifestyle

Lol @ startups are cheap. I looked into starting a business last year. I had/have 40k set aside. That won't even cover the various licenses I would need to operate.

I'm confused by what you're trying to assert here. You think because I don't have 6 figures lying around I haven't been crushing? Well, I post my results publicly for anyone to see so check it out for yourself lol. Not even 1 year into my poker career so I didn't expect to be rich yet.

That's a pretty ****ty perspective, and if I looked at poker that way I wouldn't play either.

Nope, no girlfriend. This may shock you, but not everyone in the world wants a girl. And guess what? Guys are a fan of gambling and poker

rofl.... thank you for lightening the thread up. Needed a good laugh

If you're good your volume can be as low or high as you want. Just depends on what you want to earn. But, you just admitted you can't win at poker so you wouldn't understand this. It's ok bud, leave this discussion to players who can win

Prop bet? I'll give you good odds

right now I am crushing 5nl and moving up soon. I'm starting an elite study group for those who still believe in the dream and making it to the top... 5nl to 5knl. let me get a count of how many of you want in on my study group. bumpnrun you in big timer?

There isn't a single long time poker aquaitance I know that is still playing poker for a living. They were well known guys on 2p2 with coaching, staking etc etc.
These were guys who were crushing 3/6+ who I actually looked up to when I first got into poker.

You don't go from making "hundreds of dollars an hour sitting in your underwear" to going back to college trying to land a 40k job.... unless something is VERY WRONG / public perception is VERY OFF from reality.

If they were coaching/staking.... maybe they weren't that good? I don't know, first thing that comes to my mind when someone is offering coaching/staking deals is: why? Usually the answer is exactly what you would expect... they couldn't beat the games for much of a WR

OK. Thanks. That's pretty impressive.

I will check out the links you posted. Although I do wonder what happens to these guys when the dreaded V word puts in an appearance and they hit a big downswing. It happens to everyone sooner or later. Would like to check their PG&Cs in 5 years time.

king10clubs though.

BET.

Got a real life chuckle out of me, wp.

Same here haha. Best post of the thread.

I also like how the guy who admits not being able to win at poker is up all saturday night posting about how poker players are trash.

Wait what?

How many millions did u make then on the alternative path?

Bumpnrun is just throwing some much needed realism into the mix guys. Poker is not a viable long term career path. Sorry, but that's the harsh truth.