That model is changing, for several reasons including social media. It is far more beneficial to graft the non-transparent bigger system because of the huge amount of $ involved.

PPA failed for several reasons, but citing lack of lobbying effort is probably not near the top of the list.

Lawmakers should bring back national online poker because lately a lot of people have been clicking a mouse and losing their house

Another reason to bring back national online poker is that it would lower INFLATION since less money is being spent on goods and services.

And governments are getting much needed tax money at the same time.

Yes, they did spend time lobbying. Unfortunately, lobbying still costs money and when the opposing side has millions or billions, and you don't, you're fighting an uphill battle.

Why should Doug or Phil bother trying to legalize poker? It costs them time and money which can be spent on poker or anything else.

If Polk led the charge for legalization, they'd look at his recent past and dismiss it outright and it would be banned in the states it's already allowed in.

Don't forget about the Indians. The amount of money they are spending on ads alone to keep sports betting out of California must be crazy.

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Its also a question of decision making level. Regulations of online gambling in the US takes place on a state by state basis, which is pretty much the same as, it is here in the EU. And rather than change this, maybe american poker players should try to lobby in their own state, especially the big ones like California. Turning these local governments around is hardly any more difficult than turning the federal authorities around.

Another issue is, that in those states, where legislation has been passed, there is a requirement for fenced player pools. So even there americans cant play in big international tournaments with people from other countries, which also kind of suck. But of course there are still the unregulated sites like ACR or BOL, so one also has to ask, if its really that much of a big deal. Why not just play there, if the alternative is sites like "PS Michigan" with extremely small player pools.

Dog Poker said on Instagram that poker is easy so why can't he legalize it.

That list begins with the focus on federal legislation to create a monopoly for a few companies, rather than focus on State by State lobbying, i.e. at the jurisdiction level in the US where gambling has been traditionally legalized and regulated...... ... there was little or no lobbying at a level that would have been the long road to success

.......but wtf do I know about lobbying or online poker in the 2000s ? (Ask Senator Al or the couple of online companies and B&M interests that sought a national monopoly in one fell swoop and the DC-centric lobbyists* that took their millions as fees. Of course, DC lobbyists took industry money, because they could.... not because they had a realistic solution to offer.)

(*I am not saying the PPA staff got rich, they didn't, but a lot of other folks made good bank by selling the "Federal Solution" crap like it was caviar.... and I even say that as a "Friend of Harry" during that time.)

I think this is exactly why OP created the thread. Why are you such a dick?

Actually they are trying to forbid online sports betting while having it legal in their casinos not forbid it. And given how crazy greedy the online betting companies proposition is(they keep 90% and get to run their promotions against the other 10% not their bottom line) I hope the Indians win.

These matters were civil lawsuits, not criminal cases, Losing a civil suit is not the same as a criminal conviction.

While at it, make sure to enshrine high rakeback into the constitution.

Really? The OP doesn't sound at all like someone who is aware they don't know how things work and is seeking to better understand. They sound more like someone who thinks they have a simple solution to a complex problem. I don't think making OP aware of this (and calling him naïve) comes remotely close to being a dick.

Indeed. If anything, the OP was being kind of a dick.

Back around 20 years ago, there was a sportscaster Dale Hansen in the Dallas area who had a lot of influence and tried to use his political muscle to get casinos in Texas. He initially thought what this OP thought, how hard could it be? Grease a few palms, bring Harrahs and MGM to the table, put it to a vote statewide.

I don't know how earnest his efforts were, but such a proposition never made it onto the ballot. At the poker rooms he had a reputation as a whale fish who drank too much while playing.

Hey doug any update yet? After it's legalized, can you bump the thread for us

Online poker is legal in the US as far as i'm concerned. Play on ACR or ignition. Problem solved.

True but read the actual judgements in the cases and you'll see a few lines that show why Ivey would be a terrible face for legalizing any form of gambling,

I'm not good at poker, so that's also a problem. Also I'm broke. ****.

Problem was the PPA was a farce even Rich Muny will tell you the PPA was an impotent wonder and he was high up the food chain. And some churchs and other charities still host bingo to raise money under charitable gaming. Ya want the truth. Online poker will finally take off when it clears the hurdles from the infighting in NY Cali (in this case the indians cant even get on the same page and have been responsible for the lack of movement there but theres hope with the new props on the ballot in Nov 2022) and probably Florida until then it will muddle along. Its going to take interstate compacts much like what finally happened with these filthy interstate lottery games and their massive vig aka Mega Millions and Powerball. You need a critical mass. The only way I see Federal involvement somehow (which is going to be hard when the GOP smashes the Dems likely in Nov for the next two years because of the economy and inflation ultimately win out.. Carville who is a staunch Democrat even admitted the Dems are in trouble because its the economy stupid) is if the Dems get desperate enough to shove it through in a tax bill through reconciliation or somehow pull a fast one like the GOP did with the Safe Ports Act attaching the UIGEA otherwise its gonna be a state by state issue which will take critical mass to take off.

Its been slow too damn slow for most of us since were now 11 yrs post Black Friday and I dont believe any of us thought it would take this long to come back and were not even close outside of NV, PA, DE, MI for online but the dam maybe cracking we shall see with B&M casinos appearing in places now like Virginia actually in areas that are somewhat Red in their politics (Bristol, Danville) the natural move would eventually be potentially online gaming. Problem we have is the logic people see online gaming which the house wins on par with Poker which is peer to peer betting and not actually enriching big gambling corporations as much. (The tax money does appeal to them as much but if online poker comes as a rider with a larger online gaming situation we just might get that critical mass we need for interstate poker).

Have my own issues with ACR considering the subterfuge over money disappearing out of peoples accounts and them making excuses of a stuffing attack which was BS it was an issue of somewhere between them and the crypto processor they use (which I still totally believe is owned wholly by ACR whether they want to admit it or not). Plus the shady practices of sudden IT failures at times like when guarantees are missed etc plus players who cant recover an acct due to either inept customer service or outright assholish behavior by their support despite being willing to provide any proof necessary (Know of at least one player who lost access to their old email acct and CS was useless to fix it and even though they had moved and had a new address they figured just give up the small BR in the other account and then got a new acct only to have it suspended and the only response was well respond to the old email account which the morons couldnt grasp the person no longer had access to from their ISP and hadnt played on ACR in nearly 2 yrs it was just like beating their head against a brick wall). Players deserve better then the choices they have now but unfortunately its like the Govt almost wants poker players to be stuck dealing with shady operators with no recourse.

Not to mention apparently there is now concerns a well known 3rd site SealsWithClubs which isnt super busy but does get traffic maybe in trouble under its new ownership and could be headed for the scrapheap soon for those who chose to play there.

Are there actually any significant organised efforts being made to bring online poker back to the US? The forces preventing it seem very organised, I see no such organisation by anyone wanting to bring it back to US.