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Why Doesn't Someone Like Doug Polk or Phil ivey Try and Get Poker Legalized in America? Why Doesn't Someone Like Doug Polk or Phil ivey Try and Get Poker Legalized in America?

03-22-2023 , 02:35 PM
I thought this might add some perspective to this conversation...

Note; the 3% for "Online Casino & Poker" is broken down as - 98.23% Casino, 1.77% Poker.

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03-22-2023 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NV8020
Let me ask you a question;

Do you or do you not find it insane that in America and the western world the most degenerate forms of gambling are promoted while poker is effectively illegal? Do you not find this like fentanyl being legal and weed being illegal?
Definitely insane. For example, bingo halls are common in many places where casinos are not.

As for fentanyl, it's legal because it does have some legitimate purposes. And marijuana is legal where I live. Either way, I don't know what that has to do with Doug Polk and Phil Ivey turning into untrained lobbyists for legislators. What I think should or shouldn't be is a separate matter from my ability to do anything about it. Otherwise, there would be a law requiring people to chew with their mouths closed.
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04-07-2023 , 12:18 PM
Doug Polk working on this right now in TX
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04-07-2023 , 12:56 PM
good idea to send the one of the biggest trolls in the poker world to show how legit poker is
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04-07-2023 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NV8020
Let me ask you a question;

Do you or do you not find it insane that in America and the western world the most degenerate forms of gambling are promoted while poker is effectively illegal? Do you not find this like fentanyl being legal and weed being illegal?
Of course I think it's absurd certain forms or gambling are legal and others are illegal. At least Utah bans it all.

Not sure what the hell that has to do with stage 4 cancer patients getting prescriptions for fentanyl.
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04-10-2023 , 03:58 PM
Even Utah lets you trade 0DTE SPY options.
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04-10-2023 , 10:43 PM
I'm sure some people like doug Polk or phil ivey
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04-11-2023 , 08:34 PM
As someone who's a lobbyist against legalized poker in Texas (and has raised tens of thousands of dollars in opposition to it), it's because legislators don't give a **** about what poker players think because your average American doesn't have a favorable opinion on gambling.
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04-13-2023 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DizzyG
I'm sure some people like doug Polk or phil ivey
Why doesn't someone like Doug Polk or Phil Ivey? Try and get poker legalized in America!
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04-13-2023 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rzitup
I thought this might add some perspective to this conversation...

Note; the 3% for "Online Casino & Poker" is broken down as - 98.23% Casino, 1.77% Poker.

Surprised Sports betting only makes up 5%
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04-17-2023 , 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NV8020
it's literally only illegal due to Adelson.

How hard can it be?

Extra revenue for the state
Not even remotely close to as degenerate as betting your house on a sports game like is NOW LEGAL

What else do two champs and legends like Doug or Phil even have to do?
It's like with prostitution. Legalizing it only cuts profits. Pimps and hustlers always support the puritans and conservatives as their good for business and good clients.
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04-18-2023 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
Doug Polk working on this right now in TX
How so? By running a gray market room? Seems if he really wanted to work on making it def legal in TX then NOT breaking current law would be a nbeetter start.

If poker is legal in tx now, then he can’t be working to make it legal there. If it is illegal in tx now, you think openly breaking the law is the best way to work on changing the law.
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04-18-2023 , 10:13 PM
It took someone as rich and powerful as Sheldon Adelstein to have influence as to the legality of online poker. Wtf is Doug Polk gonna be able to do?
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04-18-2023 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by fakekidpoker
Surprised Sports betting only makes up 5%
It was probably 10% the year before, but half went broke. It will probably be 2.5% next year.
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04-19-2023 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Fore
How so? By running a gray market room? Seems if he really wanted to work on making it def legal in TX then NOT breaking current law would be a nbeetter start.

If poker is legal in tx now, then he can’t be working to make it legal there. If it is illegal in tx now, you think openly breaking the law is the best way to work on changing the law.
He had a tweet a couple of weeks back that he was at the capitol doing something re: Texas poker. I'm not going to dig through to find it but if you are curious it is there. My guess is if he is successful some real players (Tillman comes to mind) will take over the scene. Don't get all sassy with me
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04-19-2023 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rzitup
I thought this might add some perspective to this conversation...

Note; the 3% for "Online Casino & Poker" is broken down as - 98.23% Casino, 1.77% Poker.

That's pretty interesting. What was the source for that graphic? I'm curious to see what the breakdown was pre-Black Friday.

I also want to know if the 2023 pie chart truly counts all of online poker, or it's only including the licensed stuff going on in Nevada, Pennsylvania, etc.

And how does it count "spending" when it comes to poker? For example, way back when, Tom Dwan put a $50 deposit on an online site. A few years later, he had run that total up, and $50 did not even constitute a small blind in the games he was playing. So how does durrrr get counted? Does he appear as a single $50 "spend" back in 2003? Or is it the buy-in at the moment he sits down?

Alternatively, I wonder if those numbers come from the opposite direction: the revenue from U.S. customers as reported by various entities, such as B&M casinos, online casinos, ADW companies, DFS operators, etc.
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04-20-2023 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
Doug Polk working on this right now in TX
Yeah have seen some cross-promotion on The Lodge socials advocating for positive poker legislation which is nice.
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04-21-2023 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
That's pretty interesting. What was the source for that graphic? I'm curious to see what the breakdown was pre-Black Friday.

I also want to know if the 2023 pie chart truly counts all of online poker, or it's only including the licensed stuff going on in Nevada, Pennsylvania, etc.

And how does it count "spending" when it comes to poker? For example, way back when, Tom Dwan put a $50 deposit on an online site. A few years later, he had run that total up, and $50 did not even constitute a small blind in the games he was playing. So how does durrrr get counted? Does he appear as a single $50 "spend" back in 2003? Or is it the buy-in at the moment he sits down?

Alternatively, I wonder if those numbers come from the opposite direction: the revenue from U.S. customers as reported by various entities, such as B&M casinos, online casinos, ADW companies, DFS operators, etc.
This is simply US based, legal and regulated gaming. Which was relevant to the discussion of legalizing poker in the US more. It's going to be a long time before poker gets any real support from those that matter, as indicated by the chart/breakdown.
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04-22-2023 , 08:20 AM
Government is trying to protect you from gambling your money away
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04-25-2023 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
That's pretty interesting. What was the source for that graphic? I'm curious to see what the breakdown was pre-Black Friday.

I also want to know if the 2023 pie chart truly counts all of online poker, or it's only including the licensed stuff going on in Nevada, Pennsylvania, etc.

And how does it count "spending" when it comes to poker? For example, way back when, Tom Dwan put a $50 deposit on an online site. A few years later, he had run that total up, and $50 did not even constitute a small blind in the games he was playing. So how does durrrr get counted? Does he appear as a single $50 "spend" back in 2003? Or is it the buy-in at the moment he sits down?

Alternatively, I wonder if those numbers come from the opposite direction: the revenue from U.S. customers as reported by various entities, such as B&M casinos, online casinos, ADW companies, DFS operators, etc.
How do you think "spending" works in poker? if Durrrr starts with $X and now has $cX where does the c come from?
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