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Old 05-10-2010, 05:47 AM   #1
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Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

I play both live and online. And my winrate in live games is much higher than online (actually, its a lossrate online).

Is it just skill level that makes all the difference? I would think that online, there are more distractions- multi-tabling, surfing, watching movies etc. While live, you are mostly focused only on playing.
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:48 AM   #2
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

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Old 05-10-2010, 06:03 AM   #3
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

If you can't figure this out you're borderline ******ed fwiw
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Old 05-10-2010, 06:04 AM   #4
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

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Old 05-10-2010, 06:11 AM   #5
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

Do you use PokerTracker when you play online and base your "reads" on the information it provides?
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Old 05-10-2010, 06:14 AM   #6
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

OP comment flawed

HSP is harder than 5/10c online 4 sure.
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Old 05-10-2010, 06:24 AM   #7
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

People play much tighter online because they are playing more hands per hour... it's hard to patiently wait for good hands when you are only getting 30 hands per hour live.
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Old 05-10-2010, 06:48 AM   #8
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

It's the skill level. It's common for winning live small stakes players to be long term losers online. But winning online players are rarely losers @ live games.

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Old 05-10-2010, 06:50 AM   #9
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

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If you can't figure this out you're borderline ******ed fwiw
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Old 05-10-2010, 07:01 AM   #10
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

if u play NL2000+, it will be the same level @ both live and online
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Old 05-10-2010, 07:20 AM   #11
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if u play NL2000+, it will be the same level @ both live and online
lol? are you joking?
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:09 AM   #12
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

live is 30% less rigged, so you're marginal losses online (win rate - 30% rigged rate = Expectated Value) deviates towards you're true win rate. In other words, Yes.
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:14 AM   #13
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

less of those suckouts
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:36 AM   #14
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

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live is 30% less rigged, so you're marginal losses online (win rate - 30% rigged rate = Expectated Value) deviates towards you're true win rate. In other words, Yes.
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:43 AM   #15
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

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Old 05-10-2010, 12:20 PM   #16
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

sky poker is easy as live poker. Played on it for 2 weeks when i self excluded my FTP account (becuase of exams but after 1 day i was bored and wanted to play).

There easy becuase there just casual recreational players that havent got clue about proper strategy and are playing for fun. Even the presenters on sky poker are recreational and havent got a clue what there on about.. e.g button raised in a mtt, every1 had over 60 BBs. BB has AQ, presenter says "He should raise here to find out where he is, if the button calls or raises he knows he is behind and can give up".
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Old 05-10-2010, 12:21 PM   #17
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

ive always thought live cash game poker was a bit more rigged. there is a ton of collusion, soft play and regulars squeezing n00bs.
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Old 05-10-2010, 12:33 PM   #18
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

obv softer live.
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Old 05-10-2010, 12:38 PM   #19
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

because most people don't drive all the way to the casino to fold most of their hands

for example, I generally play very tight pre-flop. In a $1/$2 game I was dealt KK on the button and there were several limpers. I made it $20 and got two callers who are both solid players. They will call just for the excitement of possibly cracking my big pair. Flop is A x x, they both check, I bet $50 and they insta-fold. EZ money.

I don't think its skill level, though. I see lots of players who know how to play well, but choose not to. When you are stuck with one table and 30 hands per hour its much different than 10 or more tables and hundreds of hands per hour online.

Sitting and folding is a skill not everyone is interesting in developing.
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Old 05-10-2010, 01:08 PM   #20
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

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Old 05-10-2010, 01:10 PM   #21
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

No money online, everyone is live
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Old 05-10-2010, 01:18 PM   #22
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

I think an overlooked fact in these disscussions is multitabling, your live winning regulars can only play one table, so you don't have 3 or 4 real solid players on every table.
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Old 05-10-2010, 01:31 PM   #23
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

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If you can't figure this out you're borderline ******ed fwiw
exactly op is ******ed not even gnna waste my time xplaining the difference
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Old 05-10-2010, 01:38 PM   #24
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

- Alcohol
- Live reads
- Boredom
- Traffic from other gambling games.
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Old 05-10-2010, 01:43 PM   #25
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Re: Why are/ do we think live games are easier than online?

My results look like this:

Live tourneys and cash, mega $$$ profits
Online tourneys and cash, about as negative an ROI as is possible

It is such an extreme difference for me I'm similarly befuddled. Obv, answer is easy for me - don't play online. I still get sucked in tho... and just bleed all those live profits. Sigh. Not rogged tho, online is just BS.
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