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06-17-2023 , 06:34 AM
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I have yet to find a good book about playing range, but I did find a lot of good material on blog posts, articles and some videos about it.

Also, I am looking forward to getting David Sklansky's "The theory of poker applied to No lmit" (2023).

However, I still don't get why some people say that you cannot learn poker from books any more.

Reasons??
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06-17-2023 , 07:01 AM
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06-17-2023 , 08:01 AM
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No actual pros now are capable of writing them like there was 15 years ago.
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06-17-2023 , 08:28 AM
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because they are

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06-17-2023 , 08:32 AM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/poker/comme..._gone_and_you/

You don't need to post the exact same question on both 2 + 2 and reddit at the same time.
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06-17-2023 , 08:35 AM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/poker/comme..._gone_and_you/

You don't need to post the exact same question on both 2 + 2 and reddit at the same time.
Why not?
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06-17-2023 , 09:15 AM
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Books were great during the boom as our understanding of the game was limited, but its so sophisticated these days I don't think a book will get you too far. The best way to learn is like everything else in life - fail forward. Get your 10,000 hours in if you want to be good at anything.
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06-17-2023 , 09:41 AM
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Why can't some ppl spell out complete words ?
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06-17-2023 , 09:42 AM
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Books were great during the boom as our understanding of the game was limited, but its so sophisticated these days I don't think a book will get you too far. The best way to learn is like everything else in life - fail forward. Get your 10,000 hours in if you want to be good at anything.
Was with you until the cliches and now I need to brush my teeth bc my mouth tastes like vomit.
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06-17-2023 , 05:40 PM
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Was with you until the cliches and now I need to brush my teeth bc my mouth tastes like vomit.
It's corny but great advice.
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06-17-2023 , 05:59 PM
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1) An MTT book that, upon thorough study, can boost you from playing small stakes to becoming a decent mid stakes player.
2) A cash game, no-limit poker book that has the potential to increase your win rate by at least 1 bb/100 when playing at stakes of 100NL+.
3) A PLO theory book that offers practical and relevant insights applicable to the current state of the game and covers the theory of the sizing for every street

Can you find me one book in each category? Books are dead because they dont have quality in them and the majority of people prefer studying with online courses
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06-17-2023 , 06:06 PM
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Books aren’t dead. Their purpose is just different. Using new poker books like Modern Poker Theory in conjunction with solvers and other technological training tools is what works best for me. The books help me gain a firmer conceptual understanding of a topic and the technology helps in the practice and implementation of those concepts.

People relying exclusively on solvers and what have you without understanding the why behind it are doing themselves a disservice by becoming dependent on technology rather than merely using it as a tool to supplement deeper learning.
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06-17-2023 , 06:25 PM
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3) A PLO theory book that offers practical and relevant insights applicable to the current state of the game and covers the theory of the sizing for every street
Jeff Hwang’s Advanced Pot Limit Omaha
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06-17-2023 , 07:26 PM
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I have yet to find a good book about playing range, but I did find a lot of good material on blog posts, articles and some videos about it.

Also, I am looking forward to getting David Sklansky's "The theory of poker applied to No lmit" (2023).

However, I still don't get why some people say that you cannot learn poker from books any more.

Reasons??
Have you read the books by Matt Janda?

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06-18-2023 , 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tilted9042
I have yet to find a good book about playing range, but I did find a lot of good material on blog posts, articles and some videos about it.

Also, I am looking forward to getting David Sklansky's "The theory of poker applied to No lmit" (2023).

However, I still don't get why some people say that you cannot learn poker from books any more.

Reasons??
No one under the age of thirty reads books.
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06-18-2023 , 08:31 AM
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I have yet to find a good book about playing range,
Have you read Modern Poker Theory by Michael Acevedo?
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06-18-2023 , 09:29 AM
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It's corny but great advice.
Books are not a replacement for practice, never were
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06-18-2023 , 10:04 AM
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In the past books were all we had. Now we have a variety of multimedia platforms to choose from. Many of these platforms are more optimal than books. I personally am a visual learner so I prefer bite sized content like Tweets and YouTube Shorts hand histories from my favorite influencers
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06-18-2023 , 11:08 AM
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Books are not a replacement for practice, never were
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06-18-2023 , 03:26 PM
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It's corny but great advice.
Plenty of people put in there 10k hours without getting much better at things. Plenty of people fail, but its not necessarily forward. It is true that people who get extremely good at things almost always put in a large volume of time and they learn lessons through their setbacks, but I think it's overrated as advice.
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06-18-2023 , 03:57 PM
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Plenty of people put in there 10k hours without getting much better at things. Plenty of people fail, but its not necessarily forward. It is true that people who get extremely good at things almost always put in a large volume of time and they learn lessons through their setbacks, but I think it's overrated as advice.
While true putting in 10k hours does not guarantee you will be good. Its gonna be difficult to get good without putting in those hours. I would say the most difficult part is using those 10k hours. Studying effectively is not the easiest thing. Cowherd once said everyone wants to be the be the next MJ most dont want to spend 5 hours a day practicing their jumper or was it free through Anyway point being a lot of people want to be good a **** but are not willing to put in the time and effort it takes and of those that are unless they hire coaching or someone to give them guidance they'll be struck in neutral.
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06-18-2023 , 04:39 PM
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While true putting in 10k hours does not guarantee you will be good. Its gonna be difficult to get good without putting in those hours. I would say the most difficult part is using those 10k hours. Studying effectively is not the easiest thing. Cowherd once said everyone wants to be the be the next MJ most dont want to spend 5 hours a day practicing their jumper or was it free through Anyway point being a lot of people want to be good a **** but are not willing to put in the time and effort it takes and of those that are unless they hire coaching or someone to give them guidance they'll be struck in neutral.
Poker is mainly a game of knowledge with, unlike an athletic sport, at most a small execution component. This means to get good at it you don't need anything close to 10,000 hours. See the chapter "10,000 Hours" in my book Real Poker Psychology - Expanded Edition.

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Poker-Ps...7120608&sr=1-7

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06-18-2023 , 04:43 PM
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In the past books were all we had. Now we have a variety of multimedia platforms to choose from. Many of these platforms are more optimal than books. I personally am a visual learner so I prefer bite sized content like Tweets and YouTube Shorts hand histories from my favorite influencers
I'm curious what educational value can be had from isolated, cherry-picked hands that "influencers" decide to feature in their Youtube shorts.
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06-18-2023 , 04:49 PM
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Poker is mainly a game of knowledge with, unlike an athletic sport, at most a small execution component. This means to get good at it you don't need anything close to 10,000 hours. See the chapter "10,000 Hours" in my book Real Poker Psychology - Expanded Edition.

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Poker-Ps...7120608&sr=1-7

Mason
Dont you need to spend thousands of hours studying sims if you want to become a 100knl endboss?
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06-18-2023 , 04:51 PM
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Oh look, it's Mason, poopooing advice from other people again in order to sell his own advice book. Haven't seen that for several minutes. Did your editor call and ask you to spice up your impressions in order to gain more sales in the last week or two or something?
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