Appreciate the insightful post OP

I think that this whole thread is a proof that the opposite is actually true, most of them time it's recreational players who look at pro player as if they were inferior, at least in these forums.

People who are condescending towards recreational players are usually recreational players themselves, who for some reason think it would be cool to appear as if they were playing professionally, but they are unable to control their emotions at the table.

Recs player thinking: "i'm having fun while winning money at poker"
Pro player thinking: "nice he is getting drunk, I will get his money"


It is not wht you do in particular, is just the fact that many people has this need to judge to feel superior. For any poker pro, sport or manager or others there will be alway some friendly and some not..

+1. There are things u cannot buy with money, class is one of them.

In addition, I personally believe that one should be defining success his own way. If for some all their goals are money, power and fame oriented, good for them. But let's not take for granted that one's overall "qualities" (if ofc that makes sense) can/should be measured by the digits of their bank account or their car's logo.


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Real winners operate on several levels simultaneously at the poker table. I have rarely known a winner who couldn't. The easiest and least of these levels is their apparent demeanor at the table. If you're so overwhelmed by your emotions or concentration that you can't carry on a friendly conversation while winning or losing, you picked the wrong profession.

There's a huge difference between taking advice from someone you feel is inferior in the subject than telling them they are inferior. Hedgefund managers usually don't tell their clients how stupid they think they are. I don't hear many football players saying that fans are stupid and only fellow athletes matter.

As a professional poker player YOU are a business owner/operator. Telling YOUR customers they are stupid or not as smart as you, well, it's highly doubtful you will be very successful for long.

Theres a difference success and a being a good person. The world measure success based on money so I can't see another way to do it.

totally disagree, there many people with money who dies alone or have nothing else than their own money...

Nice OP!

Yep

I'd say it's a cultural thing at least for us in the US. We always NEED to compare and measure ourselves to others as that was what we were taught. Then when we feel inferior or superior to others there's all kinds of douchiness that comes out. Really it's just another sign of the sickness behind our very basic operating or belief system about ourselves and the world around us.


In other words we are really smart monkeys who were taught stupid **** and now use that stupid **** to run our day to day lives.

Rest assured that most recreational poker players generally think very little of pro poker players.

Bear in mind that the former way outnumber the latter.

I'm not good enough to look down on fun players. I love them and hope they always have a great time in every game I play in.

Come on man. Are you really so upset that you get made fun of for being a fish that you have to make these threads?

Next up:

Why do NFL players laugh when they play flag football against amateurs who were willing to bet on the game at even odds at the NFL players stakes?

Dude. You're making sounds only a true as$hole would..

Obviously his cars and quality of dining isn't a parameter to measure human worth. There is plenty rich people who would score about as high as a petty thief when it comes to human quality. And by human quality I mean things like humility, kindness, decency and respect. There is a reason why people say you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, because people often, but not always, try to hide their empty or ugly content by presenting a pretty and glamorous cover - cover being the image they want to others to perceive when looking or thinking about them.

ITT: People that think money is what measures a successful life. Sad.

Im glad the thread title doesnt specify that its winning regs who are solely do this, b/c theyre only part of it. Losing players want to believe they only lose b/c theyre unlucky therefore when another losing player gets lucky vs them they often berate them to make themselves feel superior, kind of like a defense mechanism to convince themselves its bad beats that cause them to lose not their bad play. Most verbal abuse/berating both live and online is between losing/recreational players.
As for "winning regs" who berate recs thats generally more looked down upon but usually a downswing is the cause.
+1 to socializing with rich recs, theres some interesting characters out there. Especially at wsop, such a diverse crowd

its a pretty big part of success lol


like, most of it.

"Rudeness is merely the expression of fear. People fear they won’t get what they want. The most dreadful and unattractive person only needs to be loved, and they will open up like a flower."
- M. Gustave (fictional)

Or

"Rudeness is a weak imitation of strength."
Sometimes quoted as:
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."
- Eric Hoffer (1902-1983)

Rude people may be unpleasant at the poker table, but they are almost universally exploitable.

And here we have a wonderful example of the hippis poorus (Poor Hippy), though quite far out of it's natural habitat.

In my limited live experience, I really like most mid-high recreational players. They are friendly, highly intelligent/successful, and very interesting people. One reason I stick mostly to online is that I really don't enjoy taking tons of money from the nicest people at the table. I prefer to hide behind my monitor and pretend they are evil scumbags. This helps me sleep better at night.

Your welcome!!

At a game? Who cares

Generally? The people who play the games.

Kinda grunching. It's funny because I look at poker players as inferior beings (myself included obv)

I almost always try to engage in conversations with people at the table. Not even for the "business" aspect of it, but just to try to be a good human being. I think hard part about engaging in a conversation with a rec player as a pro player is that you obv can't tell them that you play for a living so you have to come up with some BS while there might be another pro at your table hearing you spew it. Slightly awkward when that happens I imagine lol