Originally Posted by DogFace

I must've seen Kassouf 5 times in Vegas in the past week. Not just at the Rio either. It's like we were following each other. One time he got bugged with the "9 high like a boss" stuff by some fans and took it well. Took pictures with them and was friendly enough. Not saying that makes him a great human, but I doubt he's really the worst.

I don't know any of these people irl, but the older I get, the more obnoxious I find the poker boom era version of Phil Hellmuth. Annoying dweeb who thinks he's entitled to win everything and constantly whines and berates people (usually after they outplay him). Huge d-bag who wants the attention and has a me-first attitude about everything.

Maybe he's calmed down with age (at least he doesn't do those obnoxious main event entrances anymore), but he comes off so badly in many of the old main event shows where he has a meltdown any time something doesn't go his way. You know that deep down people like Ivey and Doyle probably think he's a huge clown.

Originally Posted by pocket_zeros

Max Steinberg

Originally Posted by Kelvis

Just looking at Max Steinberg makes me throw up. He is the opposite of humble. The REG thing he is wearing is just to show he is superior to you, nothing more.

Originally Posted by Kelvis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxrjNh4-YOA

"Like, 2 minutes four days ago.... but like..... give him more taaaaaime"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuiZCcO5_p0

Tell me you can watch him talk without throwing up.

Then there's this hand where someone makes forward motion and Max goes all SJW saying "wtf was that that was a call!!111@". It ended up with a call. Max wasn't in the hand and the guy making the bet didn't even notice the "angle", also he was bluffing. Nice going Max. Can't find the video though.

edit: actually I can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9X34_eAtk

Originally Posted by pocket_zeros

These are the videos you came up with to justify your hate for the guy? In the first he asked if the guy called time on was giving enough time, and even DNegs who hates tanking in tournaments agreed with Max. And the third video is Max trying to protect another player from an angle shoot. And the second is just Max talking.

Look, you hate the guy, fair enough. We all hate some people. But you're coming up with ridiculous reasons to justify it.

Originally Posted by Kelvis

First of all Dnegs agreed with him makes my argument stronger. Second the guy he was trying to "protect" didn't even notice and he basically screwed him over.

Point is he is trying to be this "I know best and I shall keep peace and order" type of person through which he (again) is trying to show his superiority. Why does he have to open his mouth the first second somebody does something he perceives to be wrong? In the first case the people complaining about the clock are distracting the player and it won't stop the floor from counting down. Make your case after the hand if you want. In the second case why didn't he wait for 3 seconds to see if this angle even did anything before completely destroying the action and getting the floor involved. If you see damage was done then you have a perfect case for bringing that up but he just has to open his mouth right away.

These are character traits that are just obnoxious and far from humble. If you disagree that's fine and you don't have to find this annoying yourself but don't call it ridiculous.

edit; actually this is pretty funny. The google result that showed the video was actually a 2+2 thread. Max apparently has a twin that I didn't know of and more people seem to be confused about that, so I gave Max some **** he didn't deserve. Also many people agreeing with me it being a horrible move. Funny how things stay in the family though. https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...shman-1382209/

Originally Posted by swissodds

PErsonnaly, cant stand Selbst. Her views on life and her tendencies to consider anyone who isnt a "progressist globalist leftist" as an Untermensch is a proof of her lack of intelligence and tolerance. (pretty standard nowadays to pretend to be on the tolerance side and at the same time to act like a totalitarian leader when someone doesnt agree with you) -> For more on that topic, read books from Guy Debord

Originally Posted by DogFace

I must've seen Kassouf 5 times in Vegas in the past week. Not just at the Rio either. It's like we were following each other. One time he got bugged with the "9 high like a boss" stuff by some fans and took it well. Took pictures with them and was friendly enough. Not saying that makes him a great human, but I doubt he's really the worst.

I don't know any of these people irl, but the older I get, the more obnoxious I find the poker boom era version of Phil Hellmuth. Annoying dweeb who thinks he's entitled to win everything and constantly whines and berates people (usually after they outplay him). Huge d-bag who wants the attention and has a me-first attitude about everything.

Maybe he's calmed down with age (at least he doesn't do those obnoxious main event entrances anymore), but he comes off so badly in many of the old main event shows where he has a meltdown any time something doesn't go his way. You know that deep down people like Ivey and Doyle probably think he's a huge clown.

Originally Posted by bgy333

griffin bender , check ur privilege , ur verbally abusing me,

wow what a tool

Originally Posted by Kelvis

Gordon Vayo by the way.

Originally Posted by sdwhitt

For me it’s Scott Seiver. I can’t stand the guy. I find him incredibly annoying plus when he turned over a busted players hand it went from annoyance to hate.

Originally Posted by sdwhitt

For me it’s Scott Seiver. I can’t stand the guy. I find him incredibly annoying plus when he turned over a busted players hand it went from annoyance to hate.

Originally Posted by bgy333

griffin bender , check ur privilege , ur verbally abusing me,

wow what a tool

Originally Posted by amarri

Kassouf Hands down there isnt even a close second. The guy is a douche bag on wheels.