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Old 06-12-2012, 02:29 PM   #76
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Re: who actually grinded his way up?

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Old 06-12-2012, 02:30 PM   #77
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scott palmer grinded up from 50nl to nosebleeds in 12 months
I can't be the only one who read this as 12 minutes.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:37 PM   #78
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:57 PM   #79
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Re: who actually grinded his way up?

there are a lot of people who grinded their way up but you have never heard of them because playing cash is not what gets you famous. also a lot of people who have big tourney scores did grind their way up before those scores. most good players who can win long term at cash eventually take shots in tourneys and since they are good they do well and become famous.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:02 PM   #80
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Re: who actually grinded his way up?

I've always wondered how many of the people playing the highest stakes(cash or high buyin live tournaments) would be there if it weren't for being extremely aggressive(stupid) with their bankroll management and getting lucky.

I think a majority of the people at the highest stakes are there because they are degenerates with their money. A hand full are more committed and/or talented that everyone else. While the rest have the same skillset as a mid/high stakes player but are degenerates and were fortunate.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:14 PM   #81
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I certainly wouldn't consider myself a huge name or anything even remotely close to that. But I started out with a $50 deposit on empire poker and a $15 book (and have never had to redeposit).

This June is 9 years, with never having a losing month, biggest downswing being 18.5 buy ins, and I've won over $2mill from hold'em (both limit and NL).

So I guess in some people's mind (myself included) when you say "grind"...I think of the guy playing month after month after month with a low variance constantly winning strategy. Many players have won a lot more then me, but I'm not too sure there's many that can claim never having a losing month over 9 years
Lots of players like this. Myself included. One online deposit. Never redeposited. +4 million or so.

Re: never a losing month in 9 years? Thats the most unreal thing I've ever heard. Congrats and wtf. I had one year where I won all 12 months that I remember out of 10 years or so. Crazy.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:23 PM   #82
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:29 PM   #83
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Chris Furguson made 120m by playing freerolls, obv.
but how much did he lose?
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:44 PM   #84
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but how much did he lose?
All of your FT monies.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:37 PM   #85
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Re: who actually grinded his way up?

Everyone playing above 50nl was either born rich or binked a huge score live or was rich before poker.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:52 PM   #86
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all replies are trolly/misinformed/dumb and will continue to be so, OP setting up a real troll slam dunk here.

carry on.
This.^ and oh yeah. Phil Gordon grinded his way up and started a sucessfull businees with his poker roll. Srs.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:03 PM   #87
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:30 PM   #88
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Andre Robl did, he has wrote about on his blog and obv he explains it on busto to robusto.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:40 PM   #89
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:56 PM   #90
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Re: who actually grinded his way up?

Pretty well documented that Galfond did so. He grinded SNGs while in college and then eventually played the $1k SNGs on Party. By the time he switched to cash, he just jumped in the 5/10 games and never looked back.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:15 PM   #91
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I've always wondered how many of the people playing the highest stakes(cash or high buyin live tournaments) would be there if it weren't for being extremely aggressive(stupid) with their bankroll management and getting lucky.

I think a majority of the people at the highest stakes are there because they are degenerates with their money. A hand full are more committed and/or talented that everyone else. While the rest have the same skillset as a mid/high stakes player but are degenerates and were fortunate.
Here's the thing: Being very aggressive with your BRM can pay off huge if you're willing and able to accept some big setbacks and back off when things go wrong.

Pretty sure every time I moved up significantly in stakes, it was mostly the result of taking a shot and having it go well. I think a fair number of players fall into one of two extremes - either they never take shots, or they take a shot and if it goes badly, they dust off 80% of their roll before they back down.

It should be no surprise that poker players who are the best at taking well timed risks are the ones pulling in the most cash.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:17 PM   #92
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:36 PM   #93
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:05 PM   #94
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^ hahahahaha at that ivey avatar!
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:09 PM   #95
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While I agree the majority of poker players could use a strong dose of reality, there's a difference between being realistic and being a fatalist; I think you err too far toward the latter.

Am I on my way to becoming the next filthy rich nosebleed player with a baller life and tons of hookers and blow? No. Do I make more playing poker than I could putting an equivalent amount of time into a "real job?" Yes.
Tons of hookers and blow would be nice tho.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:34 PM   #96
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Tons of hookers and blow would be nice tho.
For sure, but I'm not that good, I'm just a regular guy with some math skill and a solid work ethic.

Only prodigies and degens get the hookers and blow.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:54 PM   #97
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Matt Moore obv
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Old 06-13-2012, 12:20 AM   #98
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For sure, but I'm not that good, I'm just a regular guy with some math skill and a solid work ethic.

Only prodigies and degens get the hookers and blow.
Same.
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Old 06-13-2012, 12:27 AM   #99
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Everyone playing above 50nl was either born rich or binked a huge score live or was rich before poker.
This statement is absurd.
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Old 06-13-2012, 12:50 AM   #100
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How did David peat get to high stakes? Is it common knowledge how he did it?
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