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Old 06-12-2012, 01:02 AM   #51
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Re: who actually grinded his way up?

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Old 06-12-2012, 01:31 AM   #52
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Re: who actually grinded his way up?

I heard Jamie Gold did up until he hit his big score.

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Old 06-12-2012, 02:52 AM   #53
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Chris Furguson made 120m by playing freerolls, obv.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:26 AM   #54
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Re: who actually grinded his way up?

I certainly wouldn't consider myself a huge name or anything even remotely close to that. But I started out with a $50 deposit on empire poker and a $15 book (and have never had to redeposit).

This June is 9 years, with never having a losing month, biggest downswing being 18.5 buy ins, and I've won over $2mill from hold'em (both limit and NL).

So I guess in some people's mind (myself included) when you say "grind"...I think of the guy playing month after month after month with a low variance constantly winning strategy. Many players have won a lot more then me, but I'm not too sure there's many that can claim never having a losing month over 9 years
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:44 AM   #55
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Re: who actually grinded his way up?

John Juanda. Apparently he went along to a local poker club, watched (didn't play) the lowest buyin table for several hours, then went away, bought and read all the poker books he could find and the next week bought in for $100. He built up from there and never went busto (at poker - when he was young he apparently bustoed several times playing blackjack).
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:54 AM   #56
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I certainly wouldn't consider myself a huge name or anything even remotely close to that. But I started out with a $50 deposit on empire poker and a $15 book (and have never had to redeposit).

This June is 9 years, with never having a losing month, biggest downswing being 18.5 buy ins, and I've won over $2mill from hold'em (both limit and NL).

So I guess in some people's mind (myself included) when you say "grind"...I think of the guy playing month after month after month with a low variance constantly winning strategy. Many players have won a lot more then me, but I'm not too sure there's many that can claim never having a losing month over 9 years
This

You have to quantify success. Is it Private Jets and Monte Carlo?...or is it just never having to clock in or answer to anyone?

I played online previous to black friday...and I play live only recreationally now. I truly think in the live environment with good game selection (serious free manies at 1/2, 2/5 and probably 5/10 live)...good tournament selection (id rather play a donktastic field at the River Series at Winstar or Choctaws big tourney week than face down any name pros just to say I did) a guy or girl could grind out a good living with minimal big swings.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:56 AM   #57
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Sauce did it twice
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:56 AM   #58
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You are so wrong lol.
Indeed. So far off the mark it's unreal lol.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:58 AM   #59
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easy to do
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:18 AM   #60
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:29 AM   #61
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The hard part is getting tv-time so you become "well known".
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:38 AM   #62
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I DID! I grinded .1/.2 for like a month til i got a bonus from my boss for best big mac construction evarrrr! I took that $100 and entered the super mega donktastic MTT at stars then i grinded the shyt out of that mtt and earned 1st place and a cool 90k. now ive been playin HS live at the Rio for OVER 3 WEEKZ! holla balla...rockz and ringz! I ONLY EAT SUSHI NOW!
haha last sentence cracked me up

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I certainly wouldn't consider myself a huge name or anything even remotely close to that. But I started out with a $50 deposit on empire poker and a $15 book (and have never had to redeposit).

This June is 9 years, with never having a losing month, biggest downswing being 18.5 buy ins, and I've won over $2mill from hold'em (both limit and NL).

So I guess in some people's mind (myself included) when you say "grind"...I think of the guy playing month after month after month with a low variance constantly winning strategy. Many players have won a lot more then me, but I'm not too sure there's many that can claim never having a losing month over 9 years
sick life sir
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:51 AM   #63
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Guy Laliberte.

Trying to make a living off poker is for suckers. Be a real man and go into business or rip poker players off. The later is much easier but since most poker players are poor the former has more upside.

It has been sad watching for years so many yutes thinking poker was a legitimate way to make it. 99% of it was an illusion and charade. There are only a handful of well off poker players and almost all of them benefitted financially outside of winning. There are no really well off people who are poker players by profession.

It has always been a million to one shot with a relatively low ceiling for success. Never understood the allure of itself other than people wanted to believe they could sit around playing cards and make ridiculous money. Can not happen will not happen. Plenty of people make livings but mostly middle class existences with huge risk of ruin. It is not exactly the ballah life style.

I always would smile when people would make fun of Guy. A guy who can easily afford to lose two hundred thousand on a hand for entertainment playing against some guy who is living or dying on the other side of the bet. Too many people looking up to the wrong side of the table. I feel bad for kids who spent years chasing a dream that was not even real. Was just a put on that others used to make money. Lots of people have made lots of money off poker, just none of it by playing poker.

Anyone that can grind out 75k a year at poker could likely make the same amount in the real world with more upset and less risk. How many poker players that many looked up to are just degens chasing their fix and hoping for that next big score to get them on track.
While this is generally accurate you kind of miss the allure of poker. It's not about the $ but the freedom. I could certainly be making much more in the 'real world' but being able to work whenever I feel like and -even more importantly- wherever I feel like is huge. Thanks to poker I've already been able to live the life that most people spend 50 years in their own grind looking forward to one day being able to do. I feel very fortunate for being able to take advantage of what poker had to offer.

Of course that's mostly in the past. Online poker is well beyond its prime and anybody looking to get into the game now a days is setting themselves up for disappointment. But it was never about the money for the vast majority of grinders - it was always the freedom.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:00 AM   #64
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Re: who actually grinded his way up?

What would be interesting is to know what players started grinding micro stakes online and are playing high stakes online or live.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:09 AM   #65
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:27 AM   #66
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:14 AM   #67
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Mike Matusow?
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:19 AM   #68
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stox... i'll get my coat.

don't forget his sidekick dusty.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:00 AM   #69
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Harry Kaczka can grind up a high stakes-suitable roll whenever he feels like it.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:23 AM   #70
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Lol. Isildur built his roll grinding on all the European sites before taking shots at Full tilt. I believe he said that he made the most money out of anyone on a lot of those sites as well.
He said?! Don't believe what all players say most are bust

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Old 06-12-2012, 10:23 AM   #71
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Mike McDermott.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:15 AM   #72
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isidur, even though he signed with stars, orignally he ran 2k up enough to 7 table vs the best HU players in the world
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:19 PM   #73
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While this is generally accurate you kind of miss the allure of poker. It's not about the $ but the freedom. I could certainly be making much more in the 'real world' but being able to work whenever I feel like and -even more importantly- wherever I feel like is huge. Thanks to poker I've already been able to live the life that most people spend 50 years in their own grind looking forward to one day being able to do. I feel very fortunate for being able to take advantage of what poker had to offer.

Of course that's mostly in the past. Online poker is well beyond its prime and anybody looking to get into the game now a days is setting themselves up for disappointment. But it was never about the money for the vast majority of grinders - it was always the freedom.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:21 PM   #74
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did you read the SINGLE SENTENCE in my OP?
doesnt look like

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which well-known players have actually grinded up their roll without winning a huge tournament-score,
coming out of a rich family or having made big money with a regular job before playing poker?
Nope, tl/dr....But yeah, Durrrrr
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:23 PM   #75
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Chris Furguson made 120m by playing freerolls, obv.
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