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who actually grinded his way up? who actually grinded his way up?

06-11-2012 , 09:17 PM
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06-11-2012 , 09:20 PM
I grinded myself down from 400nl to 50nl/100nl...

sauce123
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06-11-2012 , 09:22 PM
It's somewhat hard to answer you're question due to lack of information. For example I could say DogIsHead pre "quitting" or even jungleman but in reality...Can we be sure?

Personally I believe a decent amount of HS players did not "grind it out" to be playing the stakes they are now. They are either staked or as u mentioned in OP won a large mtt score early on.

I'm sure there are a decent amount who grinded it out as well tho.
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06-11-2012 , 09:23 PM
Ivey for a fact. He was broke numerous times sleeping under the damn pier in AC.

Negreanu kind of same thing. I think he built a roll up @ home, and then kept going busto when he would take his shot in Vegas. Rinse and repeat.

You don't have to be filthy rich to be considered a successful poker player. There are plenty of guys out there who make a normal living playing the game you just don't know their names or have never heard of them.
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06-11-2012 , 09:24 PM
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06-11-2012 , 09:39 PM
Those headphones look very expensive.
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06-11-2012 , 09:45 PM
Deeb grinds like a mother****er
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06-11-2012 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mabstan
+1 I don't believe he grinded his way up either
Well you're both wrong. He did by playing a mix of tournaments and cash, going broke and recovering a few times on the way. Sharkscope blom90 on party poker.
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06-11-2012 , 09:49 PM
scott palmer grinded up from 50nl to nosebleeds in 12 months
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06-11-2012 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ozu
Those glasses and headphones!

BALLA.
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06-11-2012 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ozu
Topic said grinded up, believe 2/5 live isnt up
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06-11-2012 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by xxx
Those headphones look very expensive.
I believe you mean "vurry 'spensive".
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06-11-2012 , 10:56 PM
Phil Laak

Erik Seidel
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06-11-2012 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 0mar Comin
scott palmer grinded up from 50nl to nosebleeds in 12 months
i think there are the kind've stories OP is looking for. i myself find this very cool.
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06-11-2012 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by HU4holes
did you read the SINGLE SENTENCE in my OP?
doesnt look like

too lazy to scroll up?:

which well-known players have actually grinded up their roll without winning a huge tournament-score,
coming out of a rich family or having made big money with a regular job before playing poker?
Wow, you're a dick.
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06-11-2012 , 11:29 PM
Guy Laliberte.

Trying to make a living off poker is for suckers. Be a real man and go into business or rip poker players off. The later is much easier but since most poker players are poor the former has more upside.

It has been sad watching for years so many yutes thinking poker was a legitimate way to make it. 99% of it was an illusion and charade. There are only a handful of well off poker players and almost all of them benefitted financially outside of winning. There are no really well off people who are poker players by profession.

It has always been a million to one shot with a relatively low ceiling for success. Never understood the allure of itself other than people wanted to believe they could sit around playing cards and make ridiculous money. Can not happen will not happen. Plenty of people make livings but mostly middle class existences with huge risk of ruin. It is not exactly the ballah life style.

I always would smile when people would make fun of Guy. A guy who can easily afford to lose two hundred thousand on a hand for entertainment playing against some guy who is living or dying on the other side of the bet. Too many people looking up to the wrong side of the table. I feel bad for kids who spent years chasing a dream that was not even real. Was just a put on that others used to make money. Lots of people have made lots of money off poker, just none of it by playing poker.

Anyone that can grind out 75k a year at poker could likely make the same amount in the real world with more upset and less risk. How many poker players that many looked up to are just degens chasing their fix and hoping for that next big score to get them on track.
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06-11-2012 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman

Anyone that can grind out 75k a year at poker could likely make the same amount in the real world with more upset and less risk.
You are so wrong lol.
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06-12-2012 , 12:20 AM
i did. i ate my way to the top, pound by pound. its so obvious that the fatter you are, the better you run. and the fatter i got, the better i ran. winning session? time to get that mcdonalds mcflurrie. losing session? time to get that mcdonalds mcflurrie.
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06-12-2012 , 12:24 AM
Grimstarr
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06-12-2012 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by The Detonator
majority of NVG
lol
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06-12-2012 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by There Is A Light
Beethoven was deaf.
my mum's cousin is deaf.

im not british.
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06-12-2012 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Guy Laliberte.

Trying to make a living off poker is for suckers. Be a real man and go into business or rip poker players off. The later is much easier but since most poker players are poor the former has more upside.

It has been sad watching for years so many yutes thinking poker was a legitimate way to make it. 99% of it was an illusion and charade. There are only a handful of well off poker players and almost all of them benefitted financially outside of winning. There are no really well off people who are poker players by profession.

It has always been a million to one shot with a relatively low ceiling for success. Never understood the allure of itself other than people wanted to believe they could sit around playing cards and make ridiculous money. Can not happen will not happen. Plenty of people make livings but mostly middle class existences with huge risk of ruin. It is not exactly the ballah life style.

I always would smile when people would make fun of Guy. A guy who can easily afford to lose two hundred thousand on a hand for entertainment playing against some guy who is living or dying on the other side of the bet. Too many people looking up to the wrong side of the table. I feel bad for kids who spent years chasing a dream that was not even real. Was just a put on that others used to make money. Lots of people have made lots of money off poker, just none of it by playing poker.

Anyone that can grind out 75k a year at poker could likely make the same amount in the real world with more upset and less risk. How many poker players that many looked up to are just degens chasing their fix and hoping for that next big score to get them on track.
While I agree the majority of poker players could use a strong dose of reality, there's a difference between being realistic and being a fatalist; I think you err too far toward the latter.

Am I on my way to becoming the next filthy rich nosebleed player with a baller life and tons of hookers and blow? No. Do I make more playing poker than I could putting an equivalent amount of time into a "real job?" Yes.
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06-12-2012 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mabstan
+1 I don't believe he grinded his way up either
Lol. Isildur built his roll grinding on all the European sites before taking shots at Full tilt. I believe he said that he made the most money out of anyone on a lot of those sites as well.
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06-12-2012 , 12:40 AM
I DID! I grinded .1/.2 for like a month til i got a bonus from my boss for best big mac construction evarrrr! I took that $100 and entered the super mega donktastic MTT at stars then i grinded the shyt out of that mtt and earned 1st place and a cool 90k. now ive been playin HS live at the Rio for OVER 3 WEEKZ! holla balla...rockz and ringz! I ONLY EAT SUSHI NOW!
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06-12-2012 , 12:41 AM
To try and answer the OP: Not many. The truth of the matter is that once you're better than 95% of the population at poker, "grinding it out" is no longer the most +EV way to make money with poker. You still do a lot of grinding, but you also take shots at big tournaments, or write poker books, or offer coaching, or look for whales way above your normal stakes, or try to get Team Online Pro, etc.

Eventually one of these long-shots hits, and you vault up from being a midstakes grinder into high or nosebleed stakes.

Almost everyone playing high stakes got lucky at some point - the difference between them and guys stuck grinding small-mid stakes is that they worked hard to put themselves in those spots where getting lucky was possible.
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