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Where's the outrage???? Backed Player Ghosted in Sunday Milly. Where's the outrage???? Backed Player Ghosted in Sunday Milly.

10-10-2018 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mirage01
lol ye first time I seen him streaming and immediately thought to myself I hope this arrogant fat boy gets busted for 3rd and loses 30k because he was so desperate to lock up the extra 3k cheese burger money. Crapping on about his huge edge playing 30bb 3 handed lol, now hes still crying making completely unfounded and impossible to prove allegations. Just stfu.
Wait, is this some twisted logic or just a comedic attempt to agree with everything i said, and then backtrack and not agree; and say with the last sentence -which is comprised of - "just stfu."? Or are you directing this to IrEgption?

Last edited by mamelas; 10-10-2018 at 06:21 PM.
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10-10-2018 , 06:39 PM
Relax, it was all directed to cheese burger boy.
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10-11-2018 , 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mirage01
Relax, it was all directed to cheese burger boy.
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10-11-2018 , 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by StandardBacking
Even Egption doesn't believe these allegations anymore:

https://twitter.com/IrEgption/status...01548555247616

He spent all day yesterday deleting any mention of them on twitter, instagram, reddit etc.
StandardBacking,

Will your player- lftgjc ever play on pokerstars again?

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This thread reminds me of IvanHaldi(Russia) who finished 2nd for $35.7k in a TCOOP event on Jan 23rd 2016. He was accused of being a bot while the game was halted for negotiations on the Final Table. That was the last game IvanHaldi ever played on pokerstars.
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10-11-2018 , 07:02 PM


I smell a tweet incoming from Standard Backing. Solid troll, I giggled.
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10-11-2018 , 07:15 PM
100% ROI, solid
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10-11-2018 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rakemeplz
Just wanted to point out something probably pretty obvious, but ICM doesn't do a good job of predicting equity when someone has a big stack, so if you try to claim more equity than the ICM model would predict you have...well you probably should.

Could be wrong haven't played poker in nearly a decade and I wasn't much good at it, never made a deal in an MTT.
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Originally Posted by Josem
rakemeplz,

I think you'll find that the issues with ICM relate primarily to big bubbles and/or pay jumps that don't really apply to (m)any MTTs

Naw. Chipleaders at MTT's typically have significantly higher EV than ICM would indicate due to that player having a much higher chipsgainedEV per future hand than other players due to the dynamics of laddering and payjumps. I may not be explaining it well enough, but a chipleader can leverage his chip stack way better if there has been no chop, and ICM assumes that each player is trying to win, not maximize their EV, which is not actually true.


A good way to think of it is, if at a FT they ran the numbers and then decided not to chop, then played 30 more hands and ran the numbers again, how would we expect those numbers to change on average. It would only be the same if every player's exclusive goal was to get 1st.

Last edited by THAY3R; 10-11-2018 at 07:44 PM.
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10-14-2018 , 12:10 PM
Lftgjc was accused of being ghosted when winning the Sunday Million on October 1, 2018 for $142k. Pokerstars investigated. He was cleared of wrongdoing after a thorough Pokerstars investigation.



It’s well known that we don’t ghost our players. Ghosting is -EV for us. When you play your own final tables, you learn from your mistakes, and you improve over time. When you’re ghosted, someone else is doing the learning.


We’re extremely proud of our players’ success. We give our players fair backing deals (50% + bonuses). Our players don’t pay extra for individual coaching sessions or group sessions (and it doesn’t get added to makeup). And they can quit at any time when they’re not in makeup.

Just keep this in mind the next time you see someone with a strong financial incentive start throwing insults and accusations with no proof. Contrary to popular belief, not everything you read on the internet is true.

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10-14-2018 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by StandardBacking
Lftgjc was accused of being ghosted when winning the Sunday Million on October 1, 2018 for $142k. Pokerstars investigated. He was cleared of wrongdoing after a thorough Pokerstars investigation.



It’s well known that we don’t ghost our players. Ghosting is -EV for us. When you play your own final tables, you learn from your mistakes, and you improve over time. When you’re ghosted, someone else is doing the learning.


We’re extremely proud of our players’ success. We give our players fair backing deals (50% + bonuses). Our players don’t pay extra for individual coaching sessions or group sessions (and it doesn’t get added to makeup). And they can quit at any time when they’re not in makeup.

Just keep this in mind the next time you see someone with a strong financial incentive start throwing insults and accusations with no proof. Contrary to popular belief, not everything you read on the internet is true.

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what a poor excuse as to say"pokerstars cleared him" as if that really is an indictator whether he did anything shady or not.Stars actually has terrible security fwiw( i know many usa guys who grind on stars daily in usa)
all stars did here was see if anyone else logged in at any point to play and he passed good forhim, but doesnt prove squat

you really wanna "prove" the game was played without help? show us a history of his skype?fb during that time,otherwise no1 can be sure... butonlone poker is the wild west and thats how it is.

fwiw i jusst think egyption is a giant baby and nit and cried he got owned... it doesnt take a genius to run over a guy who s afraidto play premos against a guy opening any 2
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10-14-2018 , 03:03 PM
How's that a poor excuse? The burden of proof is on the accuser. Seems like there's no founding to these allegations at all, apart from the assumption that he's backed and from Brazil, so he must be cheating. I'm not a great poker player, just slightly over break even, but I know how to apply pressure with a big stack on a final table. Just because this guy ran over the FT doesn't mean he was ghosted. It's a pity his big moment was marred by a sore loser.
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10-14-2018 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by StandardBacking



It’s well known that we don’t ghost our players. Ghosting is -EV for us. When you play your own final tables, you learn from your mistakes, and you improve over time. When you’re ghosted, someone else is doing the learning.






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Right. Final tables of majors multiples over your ABI with a bunch of your peers watching #silently. Perfect learning environment

Ghosting is -EV lol ok ...I’m sure the horse will learn soooo much from his nervousness it will cancel out all that final table EV lost from sub optimal decisions
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10-14-2018 , 09:37 PM
curious what pokerstars looked at in deciding if there was ghosting
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10-14-2018 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by StandardBacking
It’s well known that we don’t ghost our players. Ghosting is -EV for us. When you play your own final tables, you learn from your mistakes, and you improve over time. When you’re ghosted, someone else is doing the learning.
LOL.
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10-14-2018 , 11:39 PM
its amazing that these people may have good knowledge of the game of poker.. but lack common sense and have 0 clue about how word spreads in todays age.

Please learn some tactics about PR before posting again
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10-15-2018 , 12:48 AM
It was PR trolling.
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10-15-2018 , 03:26 AM
@Scumbag Backing: Please explain how and to whom it is well known you don’t ghost your players.

(fwiw this Egypt guy is probably in the wrong here but your post is illogical, ******ed and insulting.)
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10-15-2018 , 04:17 AM
egption is so scummy lmao, also a petty little *****, banned me for saying he was out of line for baseless accusations on the ft. I mean its r poker and i dont really care about getting banned but still, shows hes still a classless pos.
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10-15-2018 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kid-A
How's that a poor excuse? The burden of proof is on the accuser. Seems like there's no founding to these allegations at all, apart from the assumption that he's backed and from Brazil, so he must be cheating. I'm not a great poker player, just slightly over break even, but I know how to apply pressure with a big stack on a final table. Just because this guy ran over the FT doesn't mean he was ghosted. It's a pity his big moment was marred by a sore loser.
I believehe played an honest game. he had a easy table,and perfect seat.
i was just trying to pointout that theres zero way to prove ghosting, so its lame to say 'stars cleard me'
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10-15-2018 , 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by StandardBacking
Lftgjc was accused of being ghosted when winning the Sunday Million on October 1, 2018 for $142k. Pokerstars investigated. He was cleared of wrongdoing after a thorough Pokerstars investigation.



It’s well known that we don’t ghost our players. Ghosting is -EV for us. When you play your own final tables, you learn from your mistakes, and you improve over time. When you’re ghosted, someone else is doing the learning.


We’re extremely proud of our players’ success. We give our players fair backing deals (50% + bonuses). Our players don’t pay extra for individual coaching sessions or group sessions (and it doesn’t get added to makeup). And they can quit at any time when they’re not in makeup.

Just keep this in mind the next time you see someone with a strong financial incentive start throwing insults and accusations with no proof. Contrary to popular belief, not everything you read on the internet is true.

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Stables are cancer so how do you expect me to believe people with no ethics will not do something unethical? Take your whole damn stable and get on your bike.

Oh and the "ghosting is -EV for us" is practically an admission of guilt. As if a low ABI player is likely to ever play such a spot in his life again. It's such a high equity low frequency spot that if you really think ghosting is -EV you're the dumbest stable tumor ever. And **** you for advertising while making this statement as well.
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10-15-2018 , 08:40 AM
Why are people pissed standarbacking responded to allegations? Poeple accuse them of something and ask for an investigation and they when they are cleared people go "lol it's pretty lame to post you got cleared/**** response/blahblah"... I have no affiliation with either party but isn't one innocent until proven guilty? Assuming guilt is what is dumb.

IMO, if the man was being ghosted by his "boss", he would not have called him only for the FT, he would ev called the boss much sooner. And that TT call on the FT stone bubble is pretty terrible, so I'm not sure. As said before, Im a pretty **** player and anyone can be a big stack bully when the payjumps are big. I don't think you need to be an MTT master to open wider and c-bet every flop when u have that chip stack... Just my 2 cents.
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10-15-2018 , 08:48 PM
We are not pissed they are responding . We are happy they are. We are pissed they are treating everyone like children with their absurdly transperant lies and self congratulation misdirections. As someone posted it’s practically an admission of guilt, and some of us get angry at the cheats that have ruined the modern game
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10-16-2018 , 04:37 AM
unedited screenshots of every app during the ft should be shown blockout all personal info...if ya cant hide that"group call" for 2 hrs bubble u wont comply
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10-16-2018 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WhatsUpGuys
what a poor excuse as to say"pokerstars cleared him" as if that really is an indictator whether he did anything shady or not.Stars actually has terrible security fwiw( i know many usa guys who grind on stars daily in usa)
all stars did here was see if anyone else logged in at any point to play and he passed good forhim, but doesnt prove squat

you really wanna "prove" the game was played without help? show us a history of his skype?fb during that time,otherwise no1 can be sure... butonlone poker is the wild west and thats how it is.

fwiw i jusst think egyption is a giant baby and nit and cried he got owned... it doesnt take a genius to run over a guy who s afraidto play premos against a guy opening any 2

Need to show history of FB or skype because you won a poker tournament online is by far the funniest thing i have read today .
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10-16-2018 , 07:39 AM
Don't forget phone logs and text messages with the GF too

"Congratulations on winning the Sunday million, please send in your phone, phone passcode, laptop, laptop passcode, and first born son dipped in virgin blood to STARS GROUP, Isle of man, UK 3351, to collect winnings within 3-6 months"
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10-16-2018 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Don't forget phone logs and text messages with the GF too

"Congratulations on winning the Sunday million, please send in your phone, phone passcode, laptop, laptop passcode, and first born son dipped in virgin blood to STARS GROUP, Isle of man, UK 3351, to collect winnings within 3-6 months"
Shipping it all to the Isle of Man seems excessive. Instead, there should be an international rapid response force whereby PokerStars dispatches an elite ninja squad whenever someone makes the final table of a large event.

They could spy upon players from a distance, and then, if there was any detected misbehaviour, they could launch through the window to catch people cheating in the act. Sort of like Papal Ninjas but for online poker. Then PokerStars can truly live up to the expectations of some players in being the global internet police.
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