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Where are the "amazing" promotions promised by Daniel Negreanu ? Where are the "amazing" promotions promised by Daniel Negreanu ?

08-03-2016 , 05:49 AM
did he make that promise before or after they signed Cristiano Ronaldo ?? im not a negreanu fan but singing the biggest Name in Sports worldwide is a pretty big deal in my opinion and it would be ok to call it "amazing Promotion".
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08-03-2016 , 07:31 AM
Hillary Clinton is holding them if she is not elected you will never see them lmao
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08-03-2016 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by YoungKhalifa
did he make that promise before or after they signed Cristiano Ronaldo ?? im not a negreanu fan but singing the biggest Name in Sports worldwide is a pretty big deal in my opinion and it would be ok to call it "amazing Promotion".
for sure before signing of Ronaldo (they signed him over a year ago I think), not positive about Neymar Jr.
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08-04-2016 , 01:37 AM
Nobody is associating these big sport stars with poker. I dont think they bring any players to the game, some random guy who won a tourney were better marketing for ps than these sport stars.

Ive never heard somebody told me: "hey you see Ronaldo is playing poker! i am gonna give it a go"

Also instead of giving 1 000 0000 people 1$ or 2$ and saying they gave away 2mil in promos they should rather give more people like 1k or 500, an amount that they can at least tell their friends about and thus attract more players...

These promos where they give away millions are so stupid and borderline scams.
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08-04-2016 , 06:16 AM
The Jacks or better promotion is amazing! you have to play 10nl or above and gain 100 points by making hands but on your first hand you get 20 free points so you only really have to get 80 points

Why that 20 point bonus at the start is well thought out I think they make these bonuses for ******s why don't you just make it 80 points and stop insulting people. By the time you have made your 100 points you get a whole $1 if you try it at 10nl which will take about a hour at zoom

would love to hear the biggest cash bonus that someone has earned on this
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08-04-2016 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by KennyJPowers
The Jacks or better promotion is amazing! you have to play 10nl or above and gain 100 points by making hands but on your first hand you get 20 free points so you only really have to get 80 points

Why that 20 point bonus at the start is well thought out I think they make these bonuses for ******s why don't you just make it 80 points and stop insulting people. By the time you have made your 100 points you get a whole $1 if you try it at 10nl which will take about a hour at zoom

would love to hear the biggest cash bonus that someone has earned on this
$1 for me.
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08-04-2016 , 01:22 PM
its 99,8% that u make 10 bucks or less once u complete the "challenge".
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08-04-2016 , 06:17 PM
The best thing is that they simply removed all promotions for limit poker too.
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08-04-2016 , 06:28 PM
Is Negreanu's resigination in play if these promos do not turn out to be mind blowing?
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08-04-2016 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by The Camel
Is Negreanu's resigination in play if these promos do not turn out to be mind blowing?
It will be in play, just like it was when he talked about the changes, I'm sure he was very serious about quitting.
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08-04-2016 , 11:37 PM
He's on the pokercast, looks like no mention of this. They did ask him about politics and Twitter though, asking the hard questions.
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08-05-2016 , 05:04 PM
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He's on the pokercast, looks like no mention of this. They did ask him about politics and Twitter though, asking the hard questions.
They actually asked him about the "amazing promotions" and his answer was along the line of: no, what he had been announcing had not materialzed yet and probably never will, and that right now his worries are rather that things do not get even worse. So pretty sobering.
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08-05-2016 , 07:47 PM
I'm not a Trump fan, but I got about 3.50 minutes of amusement from the Twitterbot that 'Time' magazine made.



http://time.com/3966291/donald-trump-insult-generator/
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08-05-2016 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bautzen
They actually asked him about the "amazing promotions" and his answer was along the line of: no, what he had been announcing had not materialzed yet and probably never will, and that right now his worries are rather that things do not get even worse. So pretty sobering.
Just another example of him moving the goal posts mid game. Last December he was talking about the SNE fiasco not occurring again, better promotions and improved communication between Stars and its players. Of the three, two have already failed and December hasn't arrived for the 3rd. (although we have experienced increase rake, removal of games so there has been some damage so far this year with no warning.

I appreciate the candor but this honesty should have been announced as soon as he knew that no promos were in the pipeline. After all he said his goal was to improve communications. Blaming Baazov for getting criminally charged shouldn't have had any bearing on promotional spend or areas. Lame excuse.

As for his words on Howard and Chris... I think the guy actually thinks people need his blessing to move forward in the poker world. This self appointed moral policeman of poker shtick has got to stop. He twists and turns himself out of ethical battles to suit his own needs. He's a guy that says he's made errors in the past but can't seem to quote many and never apologizes. He should just focus on Poker and let more respectable people in poker handle the moral side of things.
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08-06-2016 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Two
Nobody is associating these big sport stars with poker. I dont think they bring any players to the game, some random guy who won a tourney were better marketing for ps than these sport stars.

Ive never heard somebody told me: "hey you see Ronaldo is playing poker! i am gonna give it a go"
Advertising does not work like that.
And yes, they do bring new players to the game.
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08-06-2016 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by The Imp
He's on the pokercast, looks like no mention of this. They did ask him about politics and Twitter though, asking the hard questions.
Orly?
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08-06-2016 , 10:22 PM
Daniel talks about it around 43:40 on the latest poker cast.
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08-06-2016 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
Daniel talks about it around 43:40 on the latest poker cast.
Thanks.

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Originally Posted by AdamSchwartz
Orly?
It was an easy assumption to make - no mention of it in the blurb promoting the episode. To many online poker players that would be the top story.

He didn't say much - saying it was Baazov planning cool stuff is a bit of a stretch - "Baazov did all this bad stuff but he was planning to do some good stuff... oh well now he's gone and now we'll just try make sure no more bad stuff happens". Paxman wouldn't have let that fly but he did sound mildly uncomfortable trying to talk his way out of it, that's something.

I enjoyed his take on Spins. "The rake is... uh ... reasonable?".
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08-07-2016 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by The Imp

It was an easy assumption to make - no mention of it in the blurb promoting the episode.
Not really, and you also mistakenly stated it as a fact. DUCY that makes your post terrible?

You just couldn't stand to actually listen to the ep unless someone fed you a timestamp. Good for you--you win!
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08-07-2016 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RigCT
You just couldn't stand to actually listen to the ep unless someone fed you a timestamp. Good for you--you win!
Gosh, hard to see the hesitancy to subject yourself to 43 full minutes of shrill inanities being spewed from a forty-something male consciously employing the Valley Girl accent, to no good effect, peppering his speech with more "likes" than a viral cat video while holding forth on everything from ethics to politics with even less substance than charisma.
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08-07-2016 , 03:13 AM
Having listened to the timestamped portion just reinforces what I've come to believe, this guy ain't creating value. Every time he opens his mouth liability follows. Some guys can improvise with command, field tough questions and at least sound good if not right. Negrenau cannot.


He says they were "thrown a curveball" with Baazov's arrest. Whose their legal team headed by, Christopher Darden? When you've been under investigation for the entirety of your corporation's existence in its current form by an agency that shoots to score the possibility of key people being arrested and charged at some point is high. It wasn't a curveball, it was anticipated. Amaya might be helmed by Wall St's third stringers but at that level even the third string is deceptively good. So he's either intentionally mischaracterizing the reaction to Baazov's being charged or he's totally clueless. Which one it is has consequences.

He goes on to claim that the wings of Baazov's "vision" were tragically clipped the moment the latter traded in pinstripes for Chevy orange. The problem with that is either the "mindblowing" things Baazov envisioned and that Daniel was privy to were well crafted promotions likely to generate good returns or they weren't. The fact that Baazov's sage vision was junked the moment the heat came down says it was junk, or its now incorrectly perceived as junk by his successor, or no one at HQ knew wtf they were doing at any point. Any of those scenarios have major implications, none good. But it also raises the question if the most likely explanation, and what Negs would have thus failed to mention, is that things aren't going so hot and so they simply can't run the mindblowing promotions that they intended.

Last edited by JudgeHoldem1848; 08-07-2016 at 03:19 AM.
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08-07-2016 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by The Imp
It was an easy assumption to make - no mention of it in the blurb promoting the episode. To many online poker players that would be the top story
Great, now we're going to have to find a way to guess who's reading our blurb and change it accordingly from now on.
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08-07-2016 , 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RigCT
Not really, and you also mistakenly stated it as a fact. DUCY that makes your post terrible?

You just couldn't stand to actually listen to the ep unless someone fed you a timestamp. Good for you--you win!

I have no idea how you can be so upset by my posts but that does appear to be the case so I'll explain myself.

Negreanu's lies at the end of last year are a big deal to a lot of players. The last he addressed them was a few months ago promising that the big promotions he had promised were still to come. I clicked on the pokercast thread expecting to see some variation of "Negreanu explains himself" or the slightly more palatable "Negreanu apologises to poker community". Instead the text promoting the episode is:

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This week on the Pokercast: A long form interview with Daniel Negreanu. We're switching up the format a bit and will bring you the mail and other good stuff later this week, but to hold you over we got Dnegs on the line for an hour. Daniel talks with us about a bunch of subjects including: His WSOP, The Main Event/November 9, the big game at Bellagio, stories from back in the day, the invite only €1M One Drop, politics, twitter beefs and more.
I'm going to assume by you calling me a "jerk" in the pokercast thread that you're from the US - perhaps you're too far removed from online poker/Stars to understand what the big deal is. We've been waiting a long time for him to address this, the above blurb promoting the episode doesn't even mention it - it's not a huge leap to assume it wasn't covered. I'm not going to spend an hour listening to one of my least favourite people if I can help it - even before this controversy I'm not sure I'd set aside time to listen to Negreanu talk about politics or "twitter beefs".

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Great, now we're going to have to find a way to guess who's reading our blurb and change it accordingly from now on.
You'd get a lot more listens if you included the top story from your podcast in the description.
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08-07-2016 , 04:59 AM
I can't listen to more than 5 minutes of Negreanu. I'm still unsure what the split is between his dishonesty/naivety, but it seems to be around 50% fraud/50% imbecile. His demeanour is harder to see through than most in similar positions of self-interest, which is why it's hard to distinguish between how much is outright lying and how much is ignorance. (Compared with, say, Hollreiser who is clearly close to 100% full of bull-****.) I strongly suspect he tries hard to convince himself that what he has to say/support/promote is in the best interest of the players, despite the fact that virtually (literally?) every experienced online pro holds a different view from him. He likes to make a point of criticising Stars over relatively minor or misunderstood issues, or make empty promises (à la "obviously my resignation is in play") to give the appearance that he's more than just a well-paid Stars puppet, but that's all he is.

Ironically Negreanu has become the Donald Trump of the online poker world, and no matter how much he continues to deceive, he will always have a fan base of recreational players. However he lost the respect and trust of the informed online poker community a long time ago.

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08-07-2016 , 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB
I can't listen to more than 5 minutes of Negreanu. I'm still unsure what the split is between his dishonesty/naivety, but it seems to be around 50% fraud/50% imbecile. His demeanour is harder to see through than most in similar positions of self-interest, which is why it's hard to distinguish between how much is outright lying and how much is ignorance. (Compared with, say, Hollreiser who is clearly close to 100% full of bull-****.) I strongly suspect he tries hard to convince himself that what he has to say/support/promote is in the best interest of the players, despite the fact that virtually (literally?) every experienced online pro holds a different view from him. He likes to make a point of criticising Stars over relatively minor or misunderstood issues, or make empty promises (à la "obviously my resignation is in play") to give the appearance that he's more than just a well-paid Stars puppet, but that's all he is.

Ironically Negreanu has become the Donald Trump of the online poker world, and no matter how much he continues to deceive, he will always have a fan base of recreational players. However he lost the respect and trust of the informed online poker community a long time ago.
Sums it up quite nicely.
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