Las Vegas casinos when they reopen on June 4th include bars. How is a patron sitting at bar ordering drinks and playing video poker without a mask much different than someone at a poker table. There will be no barriers between the patron and the bartender and patron is very close physically when the bartender serves the drink. This is more direct contact than a server in a restaurant. In that case the patrons are facing each other sitting next to each other but the face of the server is not faced directly at the patron. Even if a bar allows every other seat that is an awful lot of people the bartender will be facing.

The big streams brought me back to it. I am to easy influencet haha

I got a haircut a few days ago. Hairdresser wasn't allowed to gel my hair despite having rubbed on it during the course of the haircut, standing right next to me with clippers and what not. All these rules seem really arbitrary despite everyone insisting everything is completely science based. I guess it's to minimize lawsuits more so than ensure public health. Oh well, we'll just have to go along with it for a while.

Most hair gel has alcohol in it right? Seems like that would be a good thing to sanitize the hands and hair.

I'm going to let all the Trumpers be the guinea pigs. The way they value liberty over life is idiotic. I guarantee that these conservative conspiracy theorists will be disproportionately negatively affected.

A table, cards, chips and a flop

Can't happen soon enough

Now explain why all the states seizing are blue?

After the cavalcade of failed overthrows for 3 years it is all they have got. Why in the effing world would you believe one thing from the MSM unless you are just a TDS victim?

Enjoy the second term.

Conservatives disproportionately affected? lol, It's easy to see covid19 was created in a US lab to target disproportionately liberal populations: densely populated urban centers and minorities.

Just when I thought a discussion could be apolitical.

Personally, I won't play live with dividers, and masks. I'd rather wait it out. Poker for me nowadays isn't about the grind like it was back when I was in my twenties and I felt the need to play. I'd rather play in vegas,during WSOP, without all these restrictions, and I'd rather play at my home east coast rooms without these restrictions. Not that I am overly social at the table, but to be sitting around with plexiglass dividers and wearing masks without potentially even being able to get a drink? Given I am a winner in 1/3, slight winner in 2/5 and likely a dog in most 5/10 games I play, I need to be able to order a freaking drink if i am going to donk off 1500-3500 dollars at 5/10 NL live poker. Can't see myself having fun with all this weirdness

I totally agree. Playing live with a mask ...... Can´t imagine that

ya same i wont be going back til the masks and **** are gone lol i refuse to ever purchase or wear one. if its not perfectly in place(wont be), by everyone around you(wont be), its virtually worthless to wear a mask.

probably be in sept/october or around there when things are back to normal, which is honestly perfect for me because the hotel prices go down so much and i usually never play live poker in the summer anyway.

And in my country they said, that masks are useless. Than after 2 weeks of lock down, they came around and tell that everyone has to wear a mask. I don´t know what is true, but its ridicolous

I know you think endless acronyms convey your deep, shared insight as opposed to those of us not in your circle, but it comes across as a lazy way of shorthand, instead of actual expression.

I watch enough of the mainstream media giant Fox News to guess that MSM stands for the broad smear against media providers which do not parrot your particular true-believer views, but TDS ?

Also, "states seizing", states seizing what ?

Finally, wtf does your post have to do with playing live poker ?

You don't think the bartender will be wearing a mask and standing back from you, even when serving your drink ?

... and why aren't you wearing a mask when not taking a drink ?

Not until there is a treatment and vaccine, and hopefully I have no desire by then. From what I've seen, many poker players think this is overblown, or a hoax, and aren't going to take the steps to protect others at the table.

Thanks for your question.

If this was a real pandemic:

There would be no need to incentivize doctors, and hospitals, and anyone signing a death certificate, to encourage them to list “Covid-19” as the cause of death, whether or not it was.

There would be no need for the media to exaggerate the resulting higher numbers of alleged Covid-19 fatalities by using the now discredited incentivized numbers (over 100,000) instead of the more realistc CDC numbers (about half that).

There would be no reluctance to show the annual death numbers from “regular” flue, TB, and other non-pandemic death numbers, all of which are comparable (flu) to substantially higher (TB).

There would be no need to discredit the actual cures using 60-year-old anti-malarial medication.

There would be no need to demand the entities behind the allegation of “pandemic” to be the ones , in their sole discretion, decide what “tests” of said medications need to be done, and who (literally WHO) is the only one allowed to do the tests.

There would be no need to continue to hide those who would benefit financial if WHO “called the shots”, literally and figuratively.

There would be no need to censor doctors and other entities who have actually done research, prepared objective analyses, or otherwise differ from the “party line”

There would be no need to require actively infected Covid-19 victims be inserted into nursing homes filled with immune-compromised, defensely senior citizens, in order to create more “Covid-19” victims – instead of actually quarantining the victims so they would not infect defenseless others.

There would be no need extend lockdowns beyond three or four incubation periods of allegedly 14 days each. There is a reason why a Governor’s official declaration of public health emergencies are limited by statute in many states to a specific duration.

I could go on.

If your only source of “information” is the mainstream media, the foregoing will not persuade you.

If you can think critically under stress, you would at least consider the foregoing.

Barney, thanks for your question.

Please see my response in Post #192.

Had a great day.

My chance of dying from this virus is virtually the same as from the flu. I will continue to live life.

So this is just the biggest conspiracy in human history with governments from every country is in on it? Let me find my tinfoil hat.

0.4% > 0.1%

Current CDCs numbers above, which I hope are wrong and you are right. Not reflected in those numbers is that C-19 significantly more contagious than the average flu.

C'mon don't be so cynical its clearly a worldwide conspiracy that every doctor, nurse, government and media outlet on the planet is in on, for some reasons that I can't quite work out but it must be true a guy called Nozsr on the internet said so.

yeah it's absolutely insane

these people actually think that there is an organization for the whole wide world that proclaims itself the absolute end all on things health....

and that this organization has billions of dollars at its disposal EVERY YEAR........

and that it is actually incentivizing nations to inflate numbers.....

we all know that's not possible because people don't do just anything for money.....

and i'm glad you didn't bring up the nations that didn't lock down because they are in on it to by not locking down in some way i think.....

I am now closing this thread.

Other responses to some of the more recent posts were also considered and are still on the table.