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What's the deal with accusations made about Anthony Zinno at Wynn/Encore at WPT December 2023? What's the deal with accusations made about Anthony Zinno at Wynn/Encore at WPT December 2023?

02-09-2024 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RosaParks1
I once got a ticket for peeing on a tree and the cop asked what I was doing in the area. I said I was going to a friend's birthday party at a bar downtown. He then wrote on the ticket : Suspect said "I'M DRINKING!"


This is projection but it feels like some cops write the dumbest stuff when they report what people told them. There is no way this guy told him that he had 19k "to tip cocktail waitresses" and nothing else. It just makes it sound like the cop wasn't really paying attention and it paints the respondent as less reliable.

Maybe this guy just messing with all of us? "made contact with Theuma who was asked if he could provide me with any proof that he had $19,000 in his bag stated that he only had 19k to tip cocktail waitresses"

sounds like hes jokin around
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02-09-2024 , 03:19 PM
So the bag was only under the table 10 minutes? Tough beat
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02-09-2024 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OneCrazyDuck
So the bag was only under the table 10 minutes? Tough beat
I thought I read somewhere Theuma left Encore and had forgotten his bag, got in a cab. Then remembered. Came back and looked for it.

Who waits 6 hours to contact lost and found. Unless like other poster said more or less “police reports lol”. Maybe he checked lost and found before leaving and rechecked at 6:45AM.
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02-09-2024 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RosaParks1
There is no way this guy told him that he had 19k "to tip cocktail waitresses" and nothing else. It just makes it sound like the cop wasn't really paying attention and it paints the respondent as less reliable.
I read this as victim knew he had exactly and only 19k b/c he went in his bag to get a tip for the cocktail waitress and only had the 19k.
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02-09-2024 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
I’d say it’s very unlikely he sold large pieces of that 3K, and in general if you like at his trajectory and what he plays he is exactly the sort of person that would be playing with majority if not all of his own money

But this is a relative comparison, one genius told me “but Chino Rheem!”. And to that smart man I ask what about him. He’s not Chino Rheem.

All the other stuff we are debating if it makes sense or not, we aren’t working with many confirmed facts. But even you conceded that when he took the bag he probably didn’t know there was 20K in it. He’s not Clark Kent.

But you seemed to put a nefarious spin on him “running into the bathroom”!

Mr. Borg, did he run like Usain Bolt into that bathroom? Or maybe just like Michael Johnson?
I'd say it's likely he had all of himself.

Right I don't think he has x-ray vision. I also don't think anyone who isn't a scumbag planning to steal contents from a bag if they're valuable is running to the bathroom with it. Or walking. Or crawling. or taking a motor scooter like the lazy fat slobs on the strip. whatever. ( i have no idea why you're fixated on me phrasing it as running to the bathroom.) how he gets to the bathroom is irrelevant. someone takes a bag in a casino where there are a million cameras around and just happens to take it into a place with no cameras rather than turn it into security what a coincidence!

I mean I don't have xray vision either but if I find a bag, wallet etc on the floor i'm not taking it to the bathroom. I've found a few phones before in poker rooms and also found a bag with chips once and turned them in. While I didn't have xray vision on the chip bag I didn't even open it. I could feel they were chips and gave it to the poker room manager who was on the phone with security for a while I assume trying to review the tape and find out who it belonged to.


And here's the thing- this guy could be lying about the 20k. I mean i think it's likely true but he could be lying. But guess what- if Zinno doesn't take the bag to the bathroom ( i mean what is he looking for the head of security in there) he doesn't open himself up to this potential lie.
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02-09-2024 , 04:41 PM
Right. Zinno knows there are cameras where the bag was. Could open it there to look for ID, and show what was in the bag. Or could remove it from the area where cameras are instead.
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02-09-2024 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
I read this as victim knew he had exactly and only 19k b/c he went in his bag to get a tip for the cocktail waitress and only had the 19k.
“Sorry, can you make change for a $19k chip?”
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02-09-2024 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Get out of here with this

Earnings can either be gross or net. No one including me, thinks what’s on Hendon is net

In a sea of shining 2+2 stars, you are emerging as one of the brightest!
Thanks for the compliment.

Apparently you still don't know what earnings means.
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02-09-2024 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
I'd say it's likely he had all of himself.

Right I don't think he has x-ray vision. I also don't think anyone who isn't a scumbag planning to steal contents from a bag if they're valuable is running to the bathroom with it. Or walking. Or crawling. or taking a motor scooter like the lazy fat slobs on the strip. whatever. ( i have no idea why you're fixated on me phrasing it as running to the bathroom.) how he gets to the bathroom is irrelevant. someone takes a bag in a casino where there are a million cameras around and just happens to take it into a place with no cameras rather than turn it into security what a coincidence!

I mean I don't have xray vision either but if I find a bag, wallet etc on the floor i'm not taking it to the bathroom. I've found a few phones before in poker rooms and also found a bag with chips once and turned them in. While I didn't have xray vision on the chip bag I didn't even open it. I could feel they were chips and gave it to the poker room manager who was on the phone with security for a while I assume trying to review the tape and find out who it belonged to.


And here's the thing- this guy could be lying about the 20k. I mean i think it's likely true but he could be lying. But guess what- if Zinno doesn't take the bag to the bathroom ( i mean what is he looking for the head of security in there) he doesn't open himself up to this potential lie.
It’s not like he took the bag to the bathroom. He had to go to the bathroom and the bag came with him.

There’s a difference. You seem to suggest he made a Jesse Owens like dash to bathroom to go through the contents. Or he might have needed to drop a deuce and the bag came along for the ride.
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02-09-2024 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
Thanks for the compliment.

Apparently you still don't know what earnings means.
Jesus, stop already. Not relevant to the thread at all, let it die and drop the "gotta have the last word" nonsense.
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02-09-2024 , 05:20 PM
He uses terms he does not understand, and vague descriptors to influence his PoV upon others.

It is perfectly relevant.
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02-09-2024 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
He uses terms he does not understand, and vague descriptors to influence his PoV upon others.

It is perfectly relevant.
Lol ShortBusHero77; we all understand Hendon mob earnings are gross not net of buyins

Exit Stage left please
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02-09-2024 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
It’s not like he took the bag to the bathroom. He had to go to the bathroom and the bag came with him.

There’s a difference. You seem to suggest he made a Jesse Owens like dash to bathroom to go through the contents. Or he might have needed to drop a deuce and the bag came along for the ride.
Yes what a coincidence. He had to go to the bathroom which has no cameras right when he found the bag. Then instead of giving it to the dealer floorman etc before he went to the bathroom with no cameras he took it with him.

You seem fixated on the pace at which he went to the bathroom which is utterly meaningless.
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02-09-2024 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Yes what a coincidence. He had to go to the bathroom which has no cameras right when he found the bag. Then instead of giving it to the dealer floorman etc before he went to the bathroom with no cameras he took it with him.

You seem fixated on the pace at which he went to the bathroom which is utterly meaningless.
Actually, no. You said he ran to the bathroom like Justin Gatlin. My guess he probably walked.

And people often do have to go the bathroom. In fact when on a break from tournament or after, at least 80% probably do. I’ve seen these lines myself!
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02-09-2024 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Lol ShortBusHero77; we all understand Hendon mob earnings are gross not net of buyins

Exit Stage left please
You meant "cashes", right?

Just look up what earnings mean so you don't continue to appear like you are a 12 year old.

And this was your original post:

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Maybe, but the other scenario of a guy with 11 million in earnings who stays in his lane (no high rollers) robbing a bag seemed less likely
To claim he "earned" 11 million is so far off I don't know what to tell you.
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02-09-2024 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Actually, no. You said he ran to the bathroom like Justin Gatlin. My guess he probably walked.

And people often do have to go the bathroom. In fact when on a break from tournament or after, at least 80% probably do. I’ve seen these lines myself!

I am confused though-
The *only* thing that I seen in the whole Police Report about a bathroom is:

"Theuma stated that he had to use the restroom and left the bag and money behind."

he left it behind two times?
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02-09-2024 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Umm, I never said his net was anywhere near the 11M

Next guy up needs to take a better swing.

You only get one shot at the King, better not miss
What is wrong with you? Who the hell refers to himself as 'the King' and in 3rd person nonetheless lol? Next up, swings, misses? Are you in 3rd grade? I remember you from another thread taking about how you post to 'rack up wins' and how other posters just 'take losses' against you or some nonsense like that.

Don't really know what 'earnings' mean and have no concept of backing and how tournament poker works. Here is a hint, just because you CAN afford to buy yourself into a 3K doesn't mean you always do and you also may be in a financial arrangement with someone that prevents you from doing so. There is this novel concept called 'staking' where most of the time you can't just pick and choose which tournaments you decide to play on your own dime and which you will play on someone else's dime.

To not be able to understand that just because someone has $11mil in tourney cashes, that he can't be broke is mind-boggling. A recent Borgata win can easily change nothing about someone being broke. There is this other poker term called 'make-up'. You may want to look it up King.

Signed,

The Joker
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02-09-2024 , 06:40 PM
ph77 wins the Beating a Dead Semantics Horse Award, with honorable mention going to the "walk/run" bathroom derail

zinno prefaces his tweet saying he has to withhold all details because of ongoing legal stuff, but then shares his purported actions and intent... any thoughts what "details" he could possibly be referring to? sounds like what scammers say to suggest they have a stronger case, like "i know some **** that if you only knew you'd understand"

imo you either post a long tweet putting your best public case forward, or something simple like "i can't talk specifics due to pending legal actions, but absolutely deny these allegations." this tweener tweet strains credulity.

his parenthetical ("it was a late night") seems an attempt to explain/justify his terrible "first instinct" to take the bag off premises, but it makes his story even less sensical: you've just wrapped play for the day, it's a late night, and you have another grueling donkament day ahead of you tomorrow. instead of instantly resolving the situation by alerting encore staff and getting some sleep, your first instinct is to take the bag to the cosmo and play detective all night so you can maybe connect (via "mutual friends") to "perhaps meet them somewhere on the strip"? come again?
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02-09-2024 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OneCrazyDuck
“Sorry, can you make change for a $19k chip?”
Can I just get $18,998 back please?
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02-09-2024 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Or he might have needed to drop a deuce and the bag came along for the ride.
I'm at least as annoyed that you took my bag in the stall with you while you drop a dook as I am that you take my $19k
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02-09-2024 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
I'm at least as annoyed that you took my bag in the stall with you while you drop a dook as I am that you take my $19k
Those bills are flagged, they were in the bathroom
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02-09-2024 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace upmy Slv
What is wrong with you? Who the hell refers to himself as 'the King' and in 3rd person nonetheless lol? Next up, swings, misses? Are you in 3rd grade? I remember you from another thread taking about how you post to 'rack up wins' and how other posters just 'take losses' against you or some nonsense like that.

Don't really know what 'earnings' mean and have no concept of backing and how tournament poker works. Here is a hint, just because you CAN afford to buy yourself into a 3K doesn't mean you always do and you also may be in a financial arrangement with someone that prevents you from doing so. There is this novel concept called 'staking' where most of the time you can't just pick and choose which tournaments you decide to play on your own dime and which you will play on someone else's dime.

To not be able to understand that just because someone has $11mil in tourney cashes, that he can't be broke is mind-boggling. A recent Borgata win can easily change nothing about someone being broke. There is this other poker term called 'make-up'. You may want to look it up King.

Signed,

The Joker
Lol yeah I’m sure a lawyer was running around asking for money to help pay that 3K buyin

Mighty swing and a miss but admittedly I skipped most of your post. Have you flagged as a low quality poster.
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02-09-2024 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Lol yeah I’m sure a lawyer was running around asking for money to help pay that 3K buyin
Of course we all know how lucrative the lawyer job market is.

But it doesn't seem odd for an unemployed lawyer to be "running around", does it?
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02-09-2024 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by smartDFS
ph77 wins the Beating a Dead Semantics Horse Award, with honorable mention going to the "walk/run" bathroom derail

zinno prefaces his tweet saying he has to withhold all details because of ongoing legal stuff, but then shares his purported actions and intent... any thoughts what "details" he could possibly be referring to? sounds like what scammers say to suggest they have a stronger case, like "i know some **** that if you only knew you'd understand"

imo you either post a long tweet putting your best public case forward, or something simple like "i can't talk specifics due to pending legal actions, but absolutely deny these allegations." this tweener tweet strains credulity.

his parenthetical ("it was a late night") seems an attempt to explain/justify his terrible "first instinct" to take the bag off premises, but it makes his story even less sensical: you've just wrapped play for the day, it's a late night, and you have another grueling donkament day ahead of you tomorrow. instead of instantly resolving the situation by alerting encore staff and getting some sleep, your first instinct is to take the bag to the cosmo and play detective all night so you can maybe connect (via "mutual friends") to "perhaps meet them somewhere on the strip"? come again?
Yeah, high probability there was ~$20K in there. His only goal should be making sure he isn't legally prosecuted which would be difficult to do at this point. He can't prove there wasn't $20K in there so his reputation will be damaged no matter what. If he didn't take it that's an egregious injustice. Which is why people are probably giving him the benefit of the doubt more than the facts would suggest.

He seems like a nice person but nice people do bad things all the time. Especially when they are in financial trouble.

The one thing that makes me question if he took the money is that he is a smart guy who knows casinos have cameras all over the place. That's a pretty bold move to take $19K knowing you'll be identified as the guy who had the bag. Was he really willing to risk the his word vs my word for only $19K?

Lastly, does it make sense for Zinno to leave with the bag & then come back to the casino before 6:45 AM knowing he had to play a Day 2 that same day? He seems more concerned with this bag than he does with getting sleep.
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02-09-2024 , 08:25 PM
Is it really that hard to understand that zinno taking the bag from a place with cameras to a place with no cameras is an adverse fact to his credibility regardless of why or what speed he did this?
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