Education Standards!
Stallone!
A shitty prison movie from 1989!
What about the baby?!!

Ok Boomer, lol. Can't argue with any of that. You win!

Anthony Zinno is still a low life thief.

How nice of you to render judgement on nothing but hearsay so far.

Apologies, Mrs. Zinno.

Nobody calls those people scumbags. Or at least, not enough do. Those people get invited on Oprah and become super famous. Hell, I'm off the opinion that people like tarot readers, chiropractors, psychics and ghost hunters should all be brought up on legit fraud charges, but when I say that people look at me like I'm nuts.

The “Hi, xxxx” is so played out dude.

What is your evidence that Berkey knows his product is worth less than what he charges? Whatever your own opinion of his play and coaching is, I've never gotten the sense that Berkey doesn't sincerely believe that he is a good poker player and coach.

And how would you go about determining what the morally correct price for poker coaching is?

Wow!!

PokerNews article on the topic:


https://www.pokernews.com/news/2024/...heft-45351.htm

I cant have evidence for that. How do you have evidence that new age gurus selling gem stones that heal your aura and cure cancer dont believe what they are saying? Its actually pretty irrelevant, when you are selling a product under false pretenses (you will become a great poker player and win more money than my product costs) at silly prices, you are a scumbag imo.

Anyone who is an actual good player will take one look at the other products out there and realize that their own product is inferior. Berkey isnt even a winning player when he shows up in fish laden stream games, how can he truly believe he is a good player let alone coach material?

I think it’s kinda weird everyone is saying what a nice guy zinno is.. he definitely gave me sociopath vibes but I didn’t play with him long. To be fair poker players judgement of character has to be some of the worst in the world.

The fact is that Berkey willingly plays in high stakes games and high buy-in tournaments. If he didn't believe he was a winning player, why would he play in these games?

He is presumably risking his own money, so the sincerity of his belief seems to me to be evidenced by his own actions.

Whether he is actually a good player or not has almost no bearing on whether he is a "scammer". He's only a scammer if he knows he isn't a good player and is deliberately misrepresenting himself. And I don't see any reason to suspect this.

He is almost certainly not risking his own money or at least not a good portion of it. If he is charging outrageous prices for an inferior product, he has to do some marketing for that, which would involve playing in some high stakes lineups and tourneys. It is a write off for him as well, even more so than just writing off against wins since this is directly related to his poker content and coaching. I would venture to say his net cost is pennies on the dollar to play in these games all things considered. If he wins some here and there, that is a bonus.

But it would only be good marketing for him if people watched him play and thought he played well, right? Why would playing badly in public help him get coaching business? And if he isn't risking his own money, whose money is he risking? It was my impression that Berkey was staking bunch of people, not the other way around.

He's definitely staked people in lower games but also has been staked in big games including selling pieces for the Airball HU match.

He "plays" in high stakes game (definitely not on his own money or very small percentage at best) as part of his scheme to look like someone you should pay for poker knowledge. Not rocket science.

Im pretty sure Mikki Mase is also able to get people to give him more based on the fact that hes been on Hustler Live. Most people dont even watch the games outside of highlights, they just see the linup and think "Wow, Berkey must be a pro since hes playing in these lineups!". If the market for poker coaching/training sites was purely rational, smart people, Berkey would have 0 customers. And he knows this. Hes not trying to sell to good players, but to clueless fish.

Yeah, like another poster noted, I don't think the type of people he is targeting for coaching are the type that are really dissecting his play in these games and more star-struck that he is playing in them to begin with, hence think he would be a good coach. A lot are not even watching him play at all in these games, they just see him posting and advertising that he has played in some of the biggest games, etc. and that is not a lie or something the community can even call him out on. Hence why playing in these games is 'good for business' even if he is a small to medium loser in these games.

Kebab is 100% right. Berkey is a bum and outright scamming every sucker he charges for his worthless product.

He is also a pos that doesn’t tip dealers.

He's said on multiple occasions he sells action.

Maybe casinos should pay a living wage. I tip when its expected but tip culture is such bs, It's not the fault of the people getting the tipes though which is the only reason I tip.

Except he wins in those games. Anyone who played 5/10-10/20 nl with him a decade + ago knows he won in those games too.

In a world of scumbags nobody who has staked him in nosebleeds can say he ****ed them on a stake.

If you think he sucks at poker that's fine but it's really the worst thing anyone can say about him.

I would agree he should take Zinno over the goals for this

But lol@thinking he plays nose bleeds for write-offs.

He's literally said most people can't win or at least can't be a pro long term and that coaching will just help a lot of people lose less long term. That's way more transparent than most people selling poker courses.

If you wanna tell me he couldn't beat dirt 100 blind nl rife with RTA and collusion in 2024 id actually agree with you. If you think he loses in deep stacked live with in Great lineups you're clueless.

99.99999% of people who have ever played in a cash game have left a decent sum of money laying around.

What is the difference between playing in a $10/$20/$40 game and going to the bathroom with $20,000 on the table in chips, and leaving the table with $20,000 in cash in a backpack under the table?

Wow, that is impressive if he said that.

Back on topic, I only played with Zinno once at Hard Rock PLO event for an hour or so and I remember him joking around and saying stuff like “What can you do when you’re down 100k in buy ins for the trip but make fun of yourself”.

So yes, someone that plays high volume mtts nowadays can burn so much money so fast that 7-8 figure in cashes don’t mean ****.

which do you think is more likely to get stolen/you forgetting about it-

chips on the table or a bag with money left under the table?

It's not even close. Anybody can forget a bag. This guy is never going in a cab with 20k left on the table that someone walks by and takes. And zinno is never snatching 20k in chips off the table. This guy can't even prove 20k was in the bag. If someone stole 20k off the table it's pretty easy to prove.

Berkey has very recently demonstrated his willingness to play heads up for very high stakes against people who believe he’s a bad poker player. You believe he’s not just a bad player but a scumbag who is harming the poker community. Your comments in this thread make clear that you are a significantly better player than Berkey, whom you have characterized as a fraud and a snake oil salesman. To protect the integrity of the poker community, I think you should publicly challenge him to a heads up match. I bet he’d do it for a tenth of what he played Airball for. We would all enjoy watching you destroy him on the felt, and take down his entire scam enterprise in the process. What stakes would you be up for playing him at? 100k?

You can buy a piece of Kebabkungen in the heads-up match. Easy way to double your money. $20k?