Indeed, there is that famous hand in which Hellmuth gets someone to fold trip 10s. I can't find it anymore, but someone made an entire web page dedicated to breaking down details from the different camera clips.

Then again, the 2003 Main telecast always cracks me up in one spot: Norman Chad calling the action of a hand while seated in the background is... Norman Chad. Back then, he was not easily recognizable. When you watch it now, you can't not see it.

As for your Main win, I have two recollections when it comes to the editing:

1. A shot of your wife reacting to a hand shows up in two different parts of the telecast.

2. The ESPN telecast showed the heads-up portion as consisting of one hand, or maybe as one forgettable hand plus the final one with running deuces.

Because of all the issues in 2003, the next year they did have somebody in back making sure the hole card cameras saw our cards. If they didn't see them, they told the floor. There was a floor standing behind the dealer at the TV table, and they would then ask the player to reshow their cards to the camera.

Cheers, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

Yes, when it comes to not critical stuff, they do some editing. As you say, they showed the same shot of her twice. The first time they showed it, she wasn't even there yet. She had been delayed on her way. They also edit in some close-ups and the like that I "believe" aren't real, in the sense that they didn't happen in the same hand being shown. For example, when Dan Harrington did a big squeeze play against Josh and myself, they edited to where Dan shoved, Josh folded, and I am now taking some time. While I'm thinking, they show a close-up of Dan give me a big side-eye glance and looking kinda nervous. I don't recall tanking, nor do I recall that look. I suspect the close-up was from some other hand, and they edited it into that hand.

Our heads-up match was very short. There were about 5 inconsequential hands, one of which they showed. None of those hands involved either of us losing more than 3xBB. Then the final hand happened.

As for the hand you mention with Phil betting the guy off trips, we all thought that was a hand where the player who folded must have lied to the producers when he got the call afterwards. However, I asked him about that hand while playing with him in a cash game in late 2004. He said it was correct, the board was KT3-T (not sure of the 3, but it was a small card). Phil had raised preflop, bet the flop, and now bet the turn. The guy folded JT. He said he was convinced Phil had KK, so he made the hero fold. There is some small chance that he's telling me the truth, and Phil got that phone call, and lied saying he had 77 when he really did have KK. We will never know for sure.

Cheers, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

My bad, just watched this hand again. The board was KJ4J. Tony D had JT, Hellmuth had 77. Not sure why I always remembered that as trip tens as opposed to trip jacks. Mandela Effect, WSOP-style.

The single largest piece of evidence that there was at least some minor editing: in a wide shot as Tony D faces Hellmuth's turn 3-bet, Tony rechecks his hole cards. The telecast cuts to the lipstick camera. However, in the hole card view, we see Tony is holding a stack of about 15 chips in his right hand. In the wide shot, his hand is empty. In fact, at no point in the hand do we see Tony holding chips like that – it's only in the one lipstick shot.

Pretty cool that you got to ask Tony about this hand, though. Despite 441's work in the editing bay, his side sounds quite plausible. Hellmuth's side is weird, though. It doesn't seem like the way he would play 77 there. A smooth call with KK pre makes more sense, as it's in line with the trappy "you're gonna give me all of your chips" thing.

One other funny part of that hand: when Tony raises the turn, Hellmuth stands up as if he's about to go into his "I mean, come on... I mean, what is this... you give me this, you give him this" shtick. But instead, he sits down and quietly three-bets. This also strikes me as being consistent with Hellmuth having KK and now hoping Tony has a J.

Anyway, 'preciate the insight.

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