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Old 09-25-2012, 03:23 PM   #101
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Re: what the heck happened to Randy "The Dreamcrusher" Jensen??

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Might explain why Deeb went nuts over the "going south" joke on Poker After Dark instead of laughing it off. Guilty people act that way.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:14 PM   #102
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Randy, do you realize you are the first person to OPENLY accuse Freddy Deeb of cheating???? Pretty serious stuff!!!

The thing is, I really believe you.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:33 PM   #103
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I asked Barry greenstein if he would describe Randy Jensen as a "degenerate gambler" or a "vagrant," and he just laughed but wouldn't say which.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:36 PM   #104
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Interesting that anyone can remember this. I did ask if anyone wanted to buy pieces of me, for my scheduled appearance on High Stakes Poker. Unfortunately the forementioned loss is what made me unable to play on the show. So those scumbags Russ Hamilton and Freddie Deeb basically cost me my marriage, and my chance to get a huge win off of the dipshipts that they had on HSP.

I just pray I run into Russ sometime once I am back in the mix.

LOL. this is more delusional than the "dream crusher" nickname.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:52 PM   #105
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classic little man syndrome.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:25 AM   #106
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Randy, do you realize you are the first person to OPENLY accuse Freddy Deeb of cheating???? Pretty serious stuff!!!

The thing is, I really believe you.
well I wouldn't say it if it wasn't the truth. We all have our own side to any story but I know what happened. I just didnt have the tech know how to actually get all of my hand histories and show how it happened. My knowledge of who is involved in the whole UB travesty is cursory. BUt I know that Russ is front and center, and I am not afraid to call Freddie out for his part in it with me. Did he do it with others? who knows, but I am 100% confident he did it with me.

Part of what sucks is that I have played a ton with him live, for years and I always liked him, except for the fact he will shoot any angle he can get away with.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:29 AM   #107
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LOL. this is more delusional than the "dream crusher" nickname.
I would put up a gif of the fat kid singing haters gonna hate, but I dont know how, nor do I feel like taking more than a second to even acknowledge this, but all you need to know, is that everything has a reason. Being cheated isnt the entire cause, but it is what is known as the proximate cause. I am far from delusional. End of my addressing douchebags.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:30 AM   #108
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I asked Barry greenstein if he would describe Randy Jensen as a "degenerate gambler" or a "vagrant," and he just laughed but wouldn't say which.
Ask him if I paid any debts I had to him, haha. It might address my credibility.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:00 AM   #109
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not to be a dick, but if dropping 300K was that momentous a setback, it wasnt being cheated by Russ and Freddie that cost you everything, it was your crappy bankroll management.
I agree BR management was not my forte. But I was fairly wealthy from real estate and my non poker endeavors as well. So basically I just treated my poker money with very little respect.

The big issue is that loss came the day after I told my daughter I was going to finish our yard, and her horse barn etc and was not able to do what I said I was going to do. In my house, not coming through when you said you were going to was a mortal sin. So I lost 300k in poker but about 3 million in a divorce. None of which would have happened if certain cheaters hadn't cheated. Nice little domino/butterfly effect.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:04 AM   #110
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Re: what the heck happened to Randy "The Dreamcrusher" Jensen??

I saw this 'Dreamcrusher' on an old WSOP Main Event in 06 on ESPN. He was on an episode sitting on a table with Hellmuth. To come off as a bigger douche than Hellmuth is quite a task, but Randy managed it just fine. Always had a comment about everything that went on, including berating the guy's call that knocked him out when the guy called with something like top pair top kicker on the flop (when he himself made a pretty bad shove on the flop).

From what I remember he played pretty bad too...like really bad. Maybe no limit was not his strongest game i dunno.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:06 AM   #111
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I WISH I could get staked. BUt being out of the scene for a few years leaves me with very little chance of that.


Randy, you have very solid results when you were playing and a lot of people still remember you(which is a good thing).

Believe me, with your results and numerous tv appearances - how can you NOT find someone to stake you????? Did you really burn that many bridges while you were playing????
Havent burned any bridges at all, but since I never was staked in any way, I have no network of people to ask, and wouldnt really know how to do it if I tried.

I see there is a staking forum, but I dont have a long enough history on here with this screenname. My old screenname was Randy Jensen but I dont have the password anymore to use that account. If there is someway to get the mods to get it back to me then I would be fine, and prob try to do a little stake. If anyone can help me with that It would be appreciated.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:32 AM   #112
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Randy,

This thread may help you get your original account back.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55.../#post32813325
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:46 AM   #113
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Re: what the heck happened to Randy "The Dreamcrusher" Jensen??

oddly karmic that a guy who chose the name dreamcrusher would end up in the situation he's in...
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:29 AM   #114
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I would put up a gif of the fat kid singing haters gonna hate, but I dont know how, nor do I feel like taking more than a second to even acknowledge this, but all you need to know, is that everything has a reason. Being cheated isnt the entire cause, but it is what is known as the proximate cause. I am far from delusional. End of my addressing douchebags.
Randy, if you lost in poker and were cheated 300k that is unjust. That shouldn't happen. But recognize that you are the person who put the money on the table. Everyone here thinks poker is a game of skill but that for any given session it can be all luck. So by putting that money in a position to be squandered, you made a bad choice that contributed to your marriage dissolving. If Deeb and Hamilton cheated, they wronged you. They have nothing to do with your marriage not working.

I'm married and if my wife was sitting down in a poker game and putting 1/10 of our net worth on the table, it wouldn't matter if she was Phil Ivey I would put a stop to it immediately. No one in their right mind would be married to someone who does this.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:42 AM   #115
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Randy, if you lost in poker and were cheated 300k that is unjust. That shouldn't happen. But recognize that you are the person who put the money on the table. Everyone here thinks poker is a game of skill but that for any given session it can be all luck. So by putting that money in a position to be squandered, you made a bad choice that contributed to your marriage dissolving. If Deeb and Hamilton cheated, they wronged you. They have nothing to do with your marriage not working.

I'm married and if my wife was sitting down in a poker game and putting 1/10 of our net worth on the table, it wouldn't matter if she was Phil Ivey I would put a stop to it immediately. No one in their right mind would be married to someone who does this.


wtf are you talking about?

props btw randy, i like the tone of your posts. conducting yourself well in the face of some pretty riling comments. gl to you.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:59 AM   #116
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Randy trust me when i say this. You are about 1/10th as douchey in this thread than when ive seen you on TV. So congrats on something good coming out of this whole mess.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:00 AM   #117
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Randy, if you lost in poker and were cheated 300k that is unjust. That shouldn't happen. But recognize that you are the person who put the money on the table. Everyone here thinks poker is a game of skill but that for any given session it can be all luck. So by putting that money in a position to be squandered, you made a bad choice that contributed to your marriage dissolving. If Deeb and Hamilton cheated, they wronged you. They have nothing to do with your marriage not working.

I'm married and if my wife was sitting down in a poker game and putting 1/10 of our net worth on the table, it wouldn't matter if she was Phil Ivey I would put a stop to it immediately. No one in their right mind would be married to someone who does this.
You should definitely have an undertitle that says holier than thou. By the way did you just come up with a fantasy of Phil Ivey being your wife?
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:34 AM   #118
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Randy, if you lost in poker and were cheated 300k that is unjust. That shouldn't happen. But recognize that you are the person who put the money on the table. Everyone here thinks poker is a game of skill but that for any given session it can be all luck. So by putting that money in a position to be squandered, you made a bad choice that contributed to your marriage dissolving. If Deeb and Hamilton cheated, they wronged you. They have nothing to do with your marriage not working.

I'm married and if my wife was sitting down in a poker game and putting 1/10 of our net worth on the table, it wouldn't matter if she was Phil Ivey I would put a stop to it immediately. No one in their right mind would be married to someone who does this.
XgmanshadeX = Freddie Deeb?
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:50 AM   #119
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Freddie had done really shady angle shoots with me in live games in the past. But I know without a doubt that the two of them were in cahoots while we played. They did it smart too. I would beat Russ just as if the game was legit. So why wouldnt I keep playing him. We started up heads up and about ten minutes into it, here comes Freddie and he just picked off every single bluff or any thin bet...every time. He did call downs that he would never make in a live game. The only problem is that I am not real technical on hand histories so I didnt know how to find all the logs on my hard drive to prove it. I ended up getting back 16K when UB did their refunds. Such a bunch of bs, from a half million dollar loss....300K in that game.
Do you know for a fact it was actually Freddie playing on the account, be hard to prove I'd guess
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:58 AM   #120
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OP is hilariously delusional. Recklessly risking money that you need to spend on your family is a pretty good sign you are a total degen who was going to go busto anyway
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:09 AM   #121
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OP is hilariously delusional. Recklessly risking money that you need to spend on your family is a pretty good sign you are a total degen who was going to go busto anyway
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who are the people in this thread saying this is normal? Btw, I'm not holier than anyone. I've made tons of mistakes, and will continue to. But it's just dumb to gamble away $300k, and then blame the poker players who allegedly stole your money for your divorce. If you're Bill Gates or Guy Laliberte, fine because it is a drop in the bucket. But I don't think having more than 1/100 of your net worth not he table is at all sensible, and even that is a lot (a person worth $1million sitting with 10k in front of him).

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Old 09-26-2012, 04:53 PM   #122
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who are the people in this thread saying this is normal? Btw, I'm not holier than anyone. I've made tons of mistakes, and will continue to. But it's just dumb to gamble away $300k, and then blame the poker players who allegedly stole your money for your divorce. If you're Bill Gates or Guy Laliberte, fine because it is a drop in the bucket. But I don't think having more than 1/100 of your net worth not he table is at all sensible, and even that is a lot (a person worth $1million sitting with 10k in front of him).

I'm pretty sure there were a lot of other issues that contributed to their divorce besides this 300K loss.
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:33 PM   #123
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It was probably just the main issue that came up repeatedly in arguments and was of tantamount importance in every discussion. I envision many of the arguments that might arise involving in some form or another the phrase '...it's just like when you lost the barn money gambling in poker' etc.
op, I feel for u. Despite my situation being much less severe, I basically went through an extremely similar situation with a gf I was living with at one time and very into. There were a number of other factors that came into play but that was certainly the largest issue. I also suffered some legal trouble and with a dui cant drive liberally either. It was by far the most humbling period of my life but at the same time the best possible thing that could have happened to me. It made me a better person and I've since returned to the game successfully. I don't have anywhere near as much $ as I had at my high point, but I'm completely fine and no longer suffer the stresses I subjected myself to before. Just keep grinding and you'll eventually get back on it. Poker has changed a lot but there are always new players and bad regs who don't plug their leaks or adjust to the times.

U got this. Gl



Oh ya, and more regarding the Freddy debacle. Though I didn't necessarily ever think of him as a cheater so much, he has def always come across (*to me, imo, etc) as a huge dbag. Someone should link him to this thread and the accusations, not that they're in any way all that surprising. Someone scamming someone in poker seems pretty standard these days / always.
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:32 PM   #124
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Re: what the heck happened to Randy "The Dreamcrusher" Jensen??

Didn't he pwn Brain Rast when Brian Rast was a newb. I think he said... "This isn't the kiddy game." and Randy replied .. You don't wanna be sweating Matusows nut sack.

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Old 09-27-2012, 03:16 AM   #125
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DeWald - that's the episode I was talking about. Did not realise until now that it was Brian Rast at the table. That was actually a good line by Jensen, everything else he said was just massively douchey.
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