Not only did Hellmuth talk in that multiway pot and cost the guy his tourney, but he kept calling Vladimir Geshkenbein "Russian" in a manner that was not as friendly as he may have thought it seemed.

How would people be taking his comment if he kept saying "African" or "Mexican" or "Chinaman" or "Muslim" or "Jew" to someone from one of these countries???

Why is it okay for Hellmuth to say "Russian" to this guy repeatedly as almost a slur?? It was like this guy is identified by his ethnicity to him and that is the definition of racist. If an INDIVIDUAL choose to identify by their ethnicity that is their own choice, but YOU cannot identify someone by their ethnicity if they don't want to be.


Call the person by their name or if you don't know it you say sir. Don't call someone "Russian" a million times. What if you said "Mexican" to someone a bunch of times. It would be considered derogatory.

Hellmuth was quite frankly a DISRACE at that feature table (not just his play) and he should be banned from WSOP Main Event in 2019. Teach the Brat a lesson he won't ever forget.

he said he was sorry for swearing, ok?

Did you just assume gender?

Also, dude, "Chinaman" is not the preferred nomenclature.

maybe vladimir identifies as a russian lmao

If beyne’s race is Russian, what’s yours? Maybe Midwestern or Alabamian?

This feels like a bit of a stretch to me.

This all seems to be getting a bit silly now

Were you ok when he was calling people Northern European?

Let’s not divert the discussion from the actual WSOP rules violation that went unenforced because reasons.

People like op are the problem in the world. There is real stuff to be offended and disgusted by that words barely register.



Phil Hellmuth has always been a disgrace in the way he acted at the table, you're just bringing it up now?

Pretty much this! Not to mention Phil should ve folded pre. Folding pre => solving world s problem

nice swerve

phil sucks

As long as he dont call a brother Nigerian he is good to go until....

cant wait till he calls someone idiot and that person is a legit
special needs poker player,,

Oh BOY, honey call our lawyer

ah 2+2 where someone makes a thread trying to insinuate a person using race descriptions such as mexican or russian is the same as the maurice hawkins incident where a long-time known and heavy handed racial slur is used


don't stretch your brain cells too hard OP

Is a "DISRACE" the opposite of a race?

That’s clearly a compliment, not an insult.

If one more of these SJW threads pops up I might actually get offended.

Todd Brunson calls Japanese people Japs...get the pitchforks

nope

Its not. He deff meant it as slur ,calling someone Russian all the time is perceived as offensive for sure because russians feel like the western countries don't ike them, so they find it offensive. Its not the same if you call someone a Brit, it just isn't and Phil knows this and 100% he meant it as racial slur, zero doubt about that. i feel you OP you are right and i am not anywhere near a Russian..

heh, this is like the perfect reply

It’s been quite the festival of people pretending to be confused that different words have different meanings, effects and implications.

My world map looks a lot different than your map does.

Phil's behavious is better for the games than the quiet regs who tank a few minutes for every decision & death stare everybody at the tables hence nobody cares what you think about Helmuth.

Beyne has been living in Switzerland forever and certainly doesn’t care at all what a tool like PH calls him. It’s plain stupid that you think it’s up to you to decide what someone else might find offensive.

So what about Maurice calling whites crackers? No lifetime ban for that? The N word said is horrible and there should have been some penalties and a strict strict final warning. But to escort the guy with 6 guards and ban him for life is absurd. Especially when Maurice has a long time history of abuse, angleshooting and harassment at the table. And from what I've read he is a cheat and has been banned from some properties. So you tell me what was fair here.